Talk:Soiling

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I have cleaned this article up: I have worded it so non-medical readers can understand. I have organised it. I put references to it. I have removed the cleanup-tag.

I welcome any suggestions to improve or correct the article.Aberpete 00:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

This reads like something you'd expect from a grade 6 or 7 assignment on Soiling. 60.226.121.204 13:14, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

This needs more work -- fix quotes to be English-style "", spelling errors. laurap414 03:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Please, someone has to fix this
Someone who is well-educated in pediatrics really needs to fix this... it's been tagged for a while. Dagron12345 00:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Please? Dagron12345 (talk) 04:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

This one
This article need a thorough lesson in What Wikipedia is not. It reads as an instruction manual, which it should not. Joffeloff 00:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Best Content Name Ever?
I nominate Mechanisms of Soiling: A Vicious Circle as the most creative name ever. I like the drawing, in fact all drawings should be replaced with paint drawings. Not really, this is bad, although hilarity ensues when reading it.

I agree, this sounds like some sick, twisted 6th grader's science fair project, and I found the heading pretty amusing. Rem523 06:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I personally love "Mechanics of Soiling: A vicious Circle." It is certainly the most creative name ever, and any future attempts to clean up this article should at least attempt to conserve it as a sub-heading.(Nickers 03:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC))

Propaganda
This article is written either in the tone of a propaganda article, or an encyclopedic satire. Needless to say, this article is in desperate need of revision, preferably with someone in the field of pediatric care. --Scottica 08:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Adding External Link for Encopresis.org to Soiling
I added an external link for encopresis.org to your encopresis page sometime ago where it has remained. It provides an important commercial free parents forum for children with encopresis or enuresis. I require moderated registration for joining in order to exclude spammers which has virtually destroyed the aboutencopresis.com forum which was a major forum provided by emedicine.com in cooperation with the U of VA. It is a very rapidly growing forum which I provide as a free public service. I would like to add this same link to the soiling page.

Bobpsy 14:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)bobpsy

Pictures
The pics on this page look like bad quality things made on Paint. Please fix them. Codelyoko193 Talk HHC!  13:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

You can help!
If someone has five or ten minutes to strip all the unnecessary bold text out of this article, that would really help. (Just about everything that's in bold-face text now, except the first use of the main title ("Soiling"), should be turned into plain text.) I cleaned up one section, and all the rest need similar attention.

Also, several of the "bulleted lists" should be just plain old paragraphs. I think this will look more like an encyclopedia article if we do that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Scratch that
This should just be merged into Encopresis instead of being repaired. The merge proposal is being discussed at Talk:Encopresis. If there are no objections, I'd appreciate it if one of these pages regular editors would merge the pages in a few days. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

This needs to be a separate article from encopresis for liquid fecal incontinence in adults
I never read the original versions of this page which were triggering so much criticism.

I would like to point out that the term encopresis is used almost exclusively in pediatrics. I dont know why the encopresis page defines encopresis as occurring in both children and adults. I have found no reference or study to support this wider definition.

I draw your attention to the fact that the term "fecal soiling" is sometimes used interchangeably with encopresis (i.e. in pediatrics), but soiling is generally used more to refer to Liquid stool Incontinence in adults. Other terms for this kind of FI in adults include fecal leakage, fecal seepage.

Either, I add this to the Fecal incontinence page, which might make it too long, or make a new page called "fecal leakage" since this is the most common term used for adults.Tepi (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

turned into disambiguation page
...as "soiling" is used interchangeably with encopresis, i.e. referring to children, but it is also used in some papers to refer to a vaguely similar condition in adults, fecal soiling, or just soiling.

However, most of the papers on that subject use term "fecal leakage", which I made a new page for.

Since etiologies of encopresis are usually different from fecal leakage, I think people need a disambiguation page here to direct them to either the page referring to the childhood condition or fecal leakage.Tepi (talk) 22:28, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Transferred comment from article
The following comment was added to the article in October 2014. It is more appropriate to have it here. --Ken Gallager (talk) 15:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * SOILING AND ENCOPRESIS ( They are DIFFERENT )
 * It is impossible to make sense of the literature without being aware of the lack of consensus on the meaning of the words used for the common defecation problems. Attempts have been made to establish a terminology as part of the Rome II consensus on terms in paediatric gastroenterology. However, in practice the terms failed to describe effectively a high proportion of children attending.


 * Constipation: Difficulty or delay or distress in defecation


 * Overflow faecal incontinence: Frequent passage of small volumes of stool in clothing usually without sensation (often referred to as ‘‘soiling’’)


 * Non-retentive faecal incontinence: Episodic passage of normal volumes of stool in socially inappropriate places including clothing (often referred to as 'encopresis') — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Jiannicelli (talk • contribs) October 22, 2014