Talk:Solar power plants in the Mojave Desert/Archive 1

removed build time=
build times are dependent on regulation and opposition just as with conventional energy. long lead times aren't really an issue, look at how fast they are building power plants in china. at this point build time can't really be cited as an advantage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.181.207 (talk) 16:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Successful good article nomination
I am glad to report that this article nominee for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of September 9, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:


 * 1. Well written?: Good.
 * 2. Factually accurate?: Good.
 * 3. Broad in coverage?: Expand/create some sections, for example development of them in general.
 * 4. Neutral point of view?: Good.
 * 5. Article stability? Good.
 * 6. Images?: Good.

If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.

King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  ♠ 17:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for criteria)

King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  ♠ 17:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
 * 1) It is stable.
 * 2) It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
 * a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
 * 1) Overall:
 * a Pass/Fail:
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Treating nine plants as one collective plant is misleading
The source material refers to the nine plants in SEGS as having a combined output of 354 MW. This does not make for the largest solar power installation in the world, since the nine plants are not a single installation. Unless they are...are they? I suggest changing it, but I am not in a position to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.160.160.84 (talk) 01:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Kudos
Nice article! -- David  Shankbone  23:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Scope
The proposed Blythe Solar Power Project and Calico Solar Energy Project are not discussed on this page, and I thought they were just outside the Mojave Desert area. But there appears to be some debate about this and I would welcome comments. Johnfos (talk) 04:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Have now added Blythe, which is under construction. Johnfos (talk) 00:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Sourcing
Please be aware that any material added to this page needs to be supported by WP:Reliable sources and cited in the usual way. Johnfos (talk) 04:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Blythe
Blythe, is, of course, not actually in the Mojave Desert, but in the Sonora Desert. As more of these plants come on-line, it might make sense to move this article to a more general title, such as Solar power plants in American Deserts. D O N D E groovily  Talk to me  23:10, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Sonoran Solar Plants
I believe that a new article must be made to accomodate the Sonoran desert solar plants. Just like what Dondegroovily said, Blythe is not part of the Mojave Desert. The Sonoran Desert is less famous but more bigger than the Mojave. A new article would also support other solar plants in that region. TheGGoose (talk) 23:31, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly which plants would you propose to include in a Sonoran desert solar plants article? -- Johnfos


 * There's also Palen Solar Power Project, Imperial Valley Solar Project, Genesis Solar Energy Project, and Rio Mesa Solar. Plus the aforementioned Blythe Solar Power Project. That should be enough for a new article. TheGGoose (talk) 18:46, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

This is not quite correct...
"These plants have a combined capacity of 354 MW. Today they generate enough electricity to meet the power needs of approximately 500,000 people.[1]"

Per the US Department of Energy, the average power consumption of US households is 11,496 kWh per year. Since one year is 8766 hours (average), this comes out to 1.311 kW, average. Since nearly all solar installations are only able to operate at 25% of capacity (due to maintenance, cloud cover, and nighttime), the best that 354 MW can provide is enough power for 67,000 people.

It is important not to exaggerate the capability of solar installations, as they tend to take up a lot of sensitive land that could otherwise be used for endangered plants and animals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.145 (talk) 21:05, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Have now added: "NextEra says that the solar plants power 232,500 homes (during the day, at peak power) and displace 3,800 tons of pollution per year that would have been produced if the electricity had been provided by fossil fuels, such as oil.
 * -- Johnfos (talk) 23:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Nice work, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.80.138.197 (talk) 04:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)