Talk:Soma (drink)/Archives/2021

Soma is CAnnabis
In the Arthara Veda it states that the Soma is Pavamana. Pa is leaf. Vamana is hemp. Plain and simple. The Zoroastrians used something more akin to ayahuasca made from wild olive leaves as a mao inhibitor and phalaris aquatica. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.94.33.229 (talk) 13:31, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Sources regarding the origins of soma
The line from the book (which I have in front of me) is "(Indra) He was associated more than any other deity with Soma, a stimulant drug (perhaps derived from Ephedra) probably borrowed from the BMAC religion." He doesn't offer any further discussion of how that may be, doesn't refer to any sources that might've given him that impression. He is also an archeologist and not either an comparative mythologist, anthropologist or linguist. Putting such a 'shady' source on a quite large proposition, as soma is clearly a very central aspect of the otherwise widely agreed upon indo-european culture, is strange. Especially since there is little to no refering to other authors in the field who connect the soma practice to plenty of similar intoxication rituals in Ireland, Rome or Scandinavia such as Kris Kershaw (Journal of indo-european studies Monograph 'Odin the one eyed god and the indo-germanic männerbunde), which would imply a continuation of the practice from a common indo-european source.

I tried finding the case the second author put forth (Christopher I. Beckwith, 2011 - Empires of the silk road) and literally could not find the part where he even argues this idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.148.91.153 (talk) 11:19, 20 November 2021 (UTC)