Talk:Somena/Archive 1

Somena Facts
Personally I think that this article needs to be cited a bit better especially the Somena Facts Section. Radar81 July 25th 2007

Meaghan Walker-Williams
This is a vanity page for it's author . Contemporary Somena has next to no existence on the internet independent of Meaghan Walker-Williams. 99+% of what you'll find about Somena was written by MWW or else is about her. Look at the external links she's put on this page - they either link to her own web sites, to pieces about her, or to pieces that don't actually mention Somena.--Jtk3 21:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

How many times have the National Post, Winnipeg Free Press, Homemakers Magazine, and New York Times written about anything you've been involved in John T Kennedy? Somena 03:47, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia Vandals
It's somewhat interesting that in the past month, the only contributions to the Somena entry are a series of anonymous wikipedia vandals. The entry stood for 9 months without anybody even touching it, but when a racist bigot, Kate McMillan who has advocated that "Canada needs institutions to lock up the indian activists and apologists" and has promoted the idea of recreating residential schools for indian children, has been challenged by the author of the original entry about Somena, the response from Ms.McMillan and her racist bigot friends is to engage in a series of vandalizing acts against Wikipedia.

This note is just for the reference of those who may be wondering about the strange appearance of various anonymous contributors on this entry, whose "corrections" to the Somena page, go up, and are deleted just as quickly by those of us watching for vandalism against Aboriginal entries in Wikipedia.

See the discussion on Kate McMillans entry for more details, particularly the remarks by John T Kennedy, of the No Treason blog.

Don't know how to do this editing very well, but I would like to point out that my Sept 12 edit was not that of a neo or a Liber. Just happened on the article and knew something about the subject, so I carefully made a couple of truthful changes which got someone's knickers in a twist. This sort of navel gazing shouldn't happen on Wiki. Go blog yerself!

Wiki Vandalism of This Entry
The above commenting anon is posting from the following IP

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=70.67.231.113+

WHOIS results for 70.67.231.113 Generated by www.DNSstuff.com Location: Canada [City: Calgary, Alberta]

I would like to point out that Somena is located on Vancouver Island, BC and not in Calgary Alberta.

Since this person has not signed their name, nor have they qualified exactly what information they have about Somena, it's people, the more distant and recent history, I find it remarkable that he would presume to claim that his knowledge about the effects of the Somena group being negligible is more accurate than the current entry.

The Somena Governance Society's contribution, made by myself, Dick Williams, John Williams, Doug Williams, Ken Williams, Foster and Gloria Johnny, Norman Joe and Family, Abner Thorne, Eugene Thorne, Billy Thorne, Joe Sylvester and associated groups within Cowichan comprised of the grievance cmt, including Ed, Juanita, Dianne and Ernie Elliot, Darrin & Kim George, as well as Sam and Eliza Jack and family did manage to accomplish some notable things with their efforts.

For example... prior to the Somena Governance Society's inception, Cowichan Tribes and it's subsidiary organizations had not produced the Comprehensive Funding Agreements for the Band, nor had they complied with proper auditing procedures for the band. In addition, such documents were also not being made available in Chemainus, Penelakut, Nananimo or Sliammon.

By organizing action groups to force the Indian Act governments of these Indian Act bands, we were able to achieve a far greated level of transparency than exists in just about any other Indian Act Band in the country.

In addition, we were able to assist a number of individuals in getting their complaints resolved before the band, and with the Department of Indian Affairs.

Not only that, but the production of the Coast Salish Free Zone working paper was distributed at large, and portions of the study have been brought into Treaty Negotiations across the Province of BC, especially in areas concerning Economic rights and freedoms of Aboriginal people.

Not only that but within Cowichan, the Somena people engaged in the first and only tax revolt in Canada's history of the past 100 years.

Currently the Somena independence group has 4 businesses and is working on financing more businesses to employ more people. This is all being done without any assistance from government or taxdollars.

But since you, Mr.Anonymous Kate McMillan sock-puppet, have so much knowledge about Somena, and the efforts of the Somena group, you already know about all this.

Furthermore.. the accountability efforts of this group have, as is mentioned in the Entry, been reported on in the New York Times, the Financial Post, The National Post, The Winnipeg Free Press, The Vancouver Sun, The Vancouver Province and Homemakers magazine... not only that but the Somena anti-corruption efforts have also been documented on CKNW, CBC and assorted TV and Radio stations within BC and across the country.

So Mr.Wiki Vandal.. What was your name again? And what is your connection to the Somena Independence group?

Come on.. be brave, and sign your name to your wikipedia vandalism.

Somena 08:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Nawwww... I won't participate in this any more. You win! Now go bully someone else.

And I am in Cowichan, not Calgary. And until you mentioned that Kate woman, I had never heard of her.

Vandal? "Pump don’t work ’cause the vandal’s took the handle" - Dylan. Oh, okay. I'm a vandal.

Dear Wikipedia Vandal
Do you not understand that when you log in to edit a page on WIKI that it tracks your IP and by doing a DNS search on that IP you can track pretty much exactly where you are posting from?

Did you not know this? Go look for yourself.

Do a DNS search for your own location.

Sheesh. 11:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Dear Big Mouth -

I have not been in Calgary since '78. I know I am in Cowichan. Maybe Shaw.ca redirects everything through Calgary. Or maybe I'm really in Calgary. Maybe I don't care...

Dear WikiVandal,

Do you understand what DNS is? How DNS addresses are assigned? What IP's are? You are not posting from Cowichan. Your signature is clearly marked and shows you are posting from Calgary.

Here... you could prove this rather quickly for me. When one of our elders says "So and so" (meaning a name) isn't from Somena, they're from Down Below...

What does "Down Below" mean?

I'm looking forward to your answer.

11:58, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

The numbers currently used in IP addresses range from 1.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255, though some of these values are reserved for specific purposes. This does not provide enough possibilities for every internet device to have its own permanent number. Subnet routing, Network Address Translation and the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server all allow local networks to use the same IP addresses as other networks elsewhere though both are connected to the Internet. Devices such as network printers, web servers and mail servers are often allocated static IP addresses so they can always be found.

May 28th 2006 This poster was bogus. If they were from Cowichan they would know exactly what was meant by the the phrase "down below" which is a common term amongst Cowichan people and has a specific meaning to the Hulwumuhw Mustimuhw. If this person couldn't even answer that question on the spot, then they ain't from around here. It's also not something they could find out by googling. MW

Latest Discussion About Vandals between Skookum1 and Somena
.... taken from Skookum's userpage, and brought to the attention of BucketsG, siteadmin.

I wrote to Skookum, who removed the vandal box again...

"--About the Edits vs Vandalism--...did you see the edit that said something about "The Great Pumpkin" and one that changed Doug Williams name to Hank Reardon (from Atlas Shrugged) -- and the ones that were simply insults about me and my family members -- weren't vandalism?

Help me out here... I looked at the Vandalism page, and the "No Personal Attacks" page, and these kinds of "edits" seemed to qualify to me, and to some others who reverted what they viewed as Vandalism, to be in fact vandalism. I'm not talking about any of the discussions held about the substance of the actual entry. I'm talking about the silly little jabs and insults that have been added off and on for the past few months everytime a flamewar in the Blogworld heats up. I want to keep the vandal box up - because I think it's a good idea to let potential vandals know that wikipedians are watching this page, and are paying attention to the edits being made, and why they are being made. But if you don't want the box.. I guess we could keep it down. Maybe I could use the Vandal box in the Discussion portion? - What do you think? I'll ask an admin to look into this. Not only that, but an admin who is intimately familiar with the personalities involved in this whole thing. Paging [Bucketsofg], Paging [BucketsofG],Bucketsofg could you please come to the red courtesy phone Thank you kindly ;)Somena 00:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)"