Talk:Songs from the Black Hole

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Cover from The Pinkerton Diaries
I think that the placeholder image used in The Pinkerton Diaries would be a fitting image to use in the info box for this album, especially with a caption explaining that it is a placeholder cover from the book. While this particular scan is sourced from Weezerpedia, which is not a reliable source according to WP:ALBUM/SOURCE, the image itself comes from Rivers Cuomo's self-published book about his own work, which is considered a reliable source according to Wikipedia. If the scan coming from Weezerpedia casts doubt on its authenticity then perhaps we could get somebody who has a copy of the book to upload a better scan to use. --Hostagecat (talk) 00:55, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have a copy of the book. However, I think using the image is misleading, as it suggests it might have been considered for the album cover, or that it was once used as placeholder album art by Cuomo or Weezer (we have no evidence of this). I also don't really see the point... there was no album cover for this album, so surely the most honest and informative course of action is to put nothing there? Popcornfud (talk) 01:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * What context does the book give for the image? --Hostagecat (talk) 01:25, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't have my copy with me now, but from memory, it's just a sort of logo at the top of a page somewhere. I think the image from Weezerpedia used that same text and font, but then cropped it and possibly added more text or altered it in some other way. Popcornfud (talk) 01:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You can see it (low-res) in this promo image of the book. Popcornfud (talk) 01:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I was under the impression from something I'd read a number of years ago that the book specifically named the image as a placeholder/suggested cover for the album. If that's not the case then it might not be right for the album's info box. --Hostagecat (talk) 01:34, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I don't have any easy way to check right now... with the pandemic on, I won't be able to get hold of my copy very easily. But I think I'll be able to check in a couple of months, maybe.
 * Looking at the image you provided, which is just an off-kilter scan or photo from the book, I don't think this is actually exactly the same image the previous editor provided - from memory the other editor had a more tidied up kind of fan recreation of that same logo, or something like. I'd maybe be OK with including it with a caption saying it was a logo from the book, but we can't say it was placeholder artwork or anything like that - until we can check the book, we have no way of knowing how placeholder it was, or whether it was meant to be artwork, or whatever, so that would be original research. I'm also still kind of uneasy using the album artwork field for this logo, because... well, it's not album artwork.
 * But you could ask over at WP:ALBUMS and get some more opinions; I'm open to persuasion. Popcornfud (talk) 01:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , on reflection, I think I was being overcautious here. As long as the image isn't presented in the dimensions of an album cover (as IIRC the previous submission was), and as long as we have a caption explaining that it's a logo taken from the book, then readers are unlikely to mistake it for album art. I'll go ahead and restore your edit, though feel free to revert it back if you've had second thoughts or whatever? Popcornfud (talk) 17:59, 23 March 2021 (UTC)