Talk:Sonic Riders/Archive 1

Rumours
can we all reduced the fake rumourson the game, because many fans are just putting rumours that are not ture &gt;x&lt;ino 04:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

How do you know they arnt? Cargo chaos 2:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

On Manic the Hedgehog's profile it said he has a hoverboard... he might be in this game... Cargo chaos 21:21 10 December 2005 (UTC)

No he won't, he's not a SegaSonic character. Or a game character at all. --Evilradiodude

But he could become one... you never know. it does say in the rumours that other charcters will make a comeo. MIGHT Cargo chaos 2:04, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The article is looking good and packed with good information. But the rumour sections still need to be cleaned out. SOme of the rumours actually have a link linking to the article while others don't, please set a link to the rumour. So we can all know if they are true or not &gt;x&lt;ino 04:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Some of these characters don't have a snowball's chance in hell of even being in here. Like Bunnie and Chocola? Does an Official Metal Amy even exist? I'm going to clean it up. I mean really, come on, Sonia and Manic aren't even official characters.Sukecchi 19:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Emerl?
Emerl died in Sonic Battle he was revived in Sonic Advance 3 as Gemrel therefore Emerl can't appear in this game but Gemrel however can.

Aiai
Is there any legitimate proof that people have that Aiai is in the game? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kitsune Inferno (talk &bull; contribs).
 * Nintendo Power and The GHZ - both fairly reliable. At least The GHZ is cited, although the Nintendo Power scan may not be. --Shadow Hog 16:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't know... I mean magazine's tend to make things up and I for one, would rather not see Aiai. But, if push comes to shove, anybody know his attribute? (Speed, Power, Flight?) Kitsune Inferno 08:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's a link to a scan of it. This article IS real. http://tinypic.com/kd7hbk.jpg

Knuckles sonic8 23:53, 16 January 2006 (UTC) Just checked my mag, and yep, Aiai is probably in the game.--Ac1983fan

Teams?
I'm noticing a trend here. Sonic, Tails and Knuckles seem to be working together, and the baylon rogues are definitly a team. Also, this game has types like sonic heroes. So, maybe the game will have teams. What I mean is, based on your anmd the other team members standings, you might/might not win. If so, here's what the teams might be: Team Sonic: Sonic Tails Knuckles Babylon Rogues: Jet Storm Wave Team Rose: Amy Cream ?(Possibly Big or Aiai) Team Shadow: Shadow Rogue ?(Possibly Omega) Team Egg: Eggman Robo One Robo Two

--Ac1983fan 01:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * They would seriously be hyping the "team" aspect if that was the case; so, for now, I think it's safe to say that the only intended teams would be Sonic's and Babylon. Anything else is just fanmade. --Shadow Hog 01:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, it's more likely that unlockable characters will add on to either Team Sonic or Team Babylon. Amy for Team Sonic (she's not actually unlockable, Amy is available from the start) and Eggman for Team Babylon. Cream will probably be a Team Sonic character, Shadow and Rouge could go pretty much either way. E-10000g and r would probably be on Team Babylon, considering that they're Eggman's robots, and Eggman is helping the Rogues. Any other characters right now would be speculation, but due to recent info, it's possible that Ulala, NiGHTS, and AiAi can all appear, along with other Sonic characters. From translations, it's confirmed that there are MORE than 16 characters--16 is just the amount that will be revealed on the gamesite. I'm betting on Chaotix, because I don't know any more possible flight characters (other than Charmy), and I don't think they'll reveal special, bonus characters on the gamesite. As I just said, though, it's all speculation. --Ultimate 21:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Failed logic. There are 17 characters in the game, meaning two would be left out. While, we're on the subject, is there any proof of Omega's confirmation? If not, I'll move it to Rumors Kitsune Inferno 04:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing I've seen even MENTIONS his existence, other than a lot of fans wishing. Why, I wouldn't know; Omega never struck me as a particularly interesting character, ever. --Shadow Hog 13:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

two wouldn't be left out that's just problably jet and sonic's super forms :)

Under time of day? It talks about Team Sonic, the Babylon Rogues and Team Amy? There is not confirmed Team Amy!

Robo 3
Could that yellow robot on the left be the flight robot? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cargo chaos (talk &bull; contribs).
 * No. There is no flight robot; if there was, it'd need a board, and to actually be facing the correct direction (unless Eggman's bots excel at flying backwards). This question has already been answered on this talk page, even. (I'd also appreciate it if people stop adding it to the character list - there is no Robo 3 unless Sega themselves say otherwise...) --Shadow Hog 21:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

i didnt add it... i just seen it on the sonic riders web site. but why would they make a power and speed robot but not a flight one? sounds wierd...

ive added it but you guys convinced me why would he fly side ways or even upside down?!!!and it is wierd that there is no "flight" robot "robo 3"

yeh ive seen it go upside down in some screens. theres just 1 more character for speed, flight and power to be reveled (on japanese site) i bet it will be team chaotix.. it has to be but only time will tell

Gear
why is everyone giving every character a motor bike and skates and all that? does anyone actually know about all that? and where did they find the names for shadows boards and charmys? AAAAAANND where did they find info on charmy in the game? and now someones added vector and espio!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do they ACTUALLY know they are in the game??? well it would be wierd that they appear in the news game apart from this one - Cargo chaos Uhh... dude chill if you look at new screens youll see they have motor bikes,i dont know about skates and the choatix.plus shadow's board is problably Revenge, if you really think about it!

lol or Revenge as some people have called it

Its probably Revenge, his board isn't even black.

hmmm... Revenge is his thing..

your right no black star, "REVENGE" is way better

yep. or it'll probally end up as sommin like i duno sommin stupid. just have to wait and see


 * People should stop trying to name Shadow's board. PERIOD. Until we have an official name, just say "Unknown" because we know that he's got a board. Actually, Revenge wouldn't work for him, either. Shadow isn't out for revenge anymore, as of Shadow the Hedgehog, so why would he have a board called that? Just leave it be until his board's name is revealed. --Ultimate 13:46, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

He could still want revenge, he didn't kill all of GUN or beat Sonic(SA2 was a tie, ShTH only Last Ending was canon)


 * He wouldn't want to kill GUN anymore (he's actually now FRIENDS with the Commander), and he doesn't want revenge on Sonic. Sonic's a rival, not an arch-enemy. His board will mostlikely be something related to "Chaos," or "Ultimate," but that's speculating. It might even be something you wouldn't expect. --Ultimate 00:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Revenge sound like a good name, but until the game comes out, stop naming it.

Vandalism
Anyone else getting tired of the constant vandalism? Do you think it's possible for this to be semi-protected, or at least get an admin's attention? Because this has gone on for too long; there is no Robo 3, Chaotix, and DEFINITELY no Mario characters (why on Earth would there be any of that last one?), and we don't know the name of Shadow's board - so why do people keep adding these unsourced edits, eh? --Shadow Hog 02:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

do a semi-protetion thing then, if its annoyin you that much. and people are probally only putting other characters there out of curiosity (well whoever put Mario is pretty stupid). - Cargo chaos

omg this is really annoyin me now! people are bein so stupid andaddin such randam stupid things! GRRRRRRRRRRRR why do people do that?! it annoys me so much. yeh like george w bush is gonna be in this game ¬¬ idiots.

Yeah, this article may need semi-protection. I'm seeing alot of vandalism and spam here ChaosChris 07:31, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Bah, one time I tried fixing some of the stuff, and I got blame for vandalism. I didn't know about the "revert" feature, and when I removed incorrect info, some admin thought I was removing stuff line-by-line. Yes, this vandalism thing is going out of wack, and it's all guests doing it. Although, as for the Chaotix and Omega--no sources point against them, though none point for them, either. The character lists do say "Confirmed" Characters, though, so they can't be put in place. Theoretically, AiAi shouldn't be in there yet, as Sonic Team hasn't confirmed him as a playable character at this moment in time. At least he has some sources, though. --Ultimate 02:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

its been vandalised AGAIN! ffs this is doin my nut in cant people just leave it ALONE. im sick of changin it back to the way it was again and again!


 * GRRR!!! GEORGE W. BUSH IS NOT PLAYABLE!!! *sigh* Damn spammers... --Ultimate 00:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Uh... I don't think Jesus... or Bush... are interested in Extreme Gear racing. --Ultimate 19:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Characters
OFFICIAL CHARACTER LIST


 * "Hero"
 * Sonic The Hedgehog
 * Miles "Tails" Prower
 * Knuckles The Echidna


 * Amy Rose
 * Cream The Rabbit


 * AiAi (Super Monkey Ball)
 * Ulala (Space Channel 5)
 * NiGHTs (NiGHTs Into Dreams)


 * "Dark"
 * Jet The Hawk
 * Wave The Swallow
 * Storm The Albatross


 * Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik
 * Robo 1
 * Robo 2


 * Shadow The Hedgehog
 * Rouge The Bat


 * SECRET CHARACTER
 * Super Sonic

Check sonicteam.com. Click Sonic Riders and click 1st new.
 * Can someone please show me where there is any info about Amy, Dr. Eggman, Cream (and Cheese), or Rouge being in the game? I have checked Sega's sites for the game and the only confirmed characters right now are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and the three new characters from the Babylon Rogues. While it is probable that those characters I listed will appear in the game, it is not confirmed yet, and I feel that they shouldn't be listed as "known" characters yet. I was able to find more "evidence" that Shadow is in the game than any of the other characters save for Dr. Eggman. Ryohazuki1987 23:35, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Check SONICRIDERS.COM. It shows most of the main characters, as well as 4 characters represented as "?". User:Whinnie 16:52, March 8, 2006 (UTC)


 * As if anyone's going to read the template, but whatever. Be aware the URLs of the links below also contain the spoiler - although, again, I don't think too many people will care. Pretty light spoilers, not like Aeris or anything.
 * ,, , , and . --Shadow Hog 01:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * ,, , , and . --Shadow Hog 01:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Shadow HOG, you have just become a fool!:D
 * What are the links for?

Of course we already know who those fools characters are:P So... those fools will be in Riders. :P  LOL are cream:P and roug looks :P &gt;x&lt;ino 02:15, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

On the Sonic Rider's official website, if you go on the characters section and click the question mark below Storm it will be Rouge. So Rouge is definitely in the game. Cargo chaos 23:30, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, that's good enough for me. I just wanted to make sure that we were being careful to not include characters just because they have been in recent Sonic games. It appeared contradictory to see characters listed under rumours and also in the list of known characters. Ryohazuki1987 03:12, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Just in case anyone is wondering, those links no longer work. Sega must've wisened up and figured out that they were letting loose their secrets. They could've at least kept Amy's and Eggman's though, seeing as they were confirmed characters from the start. If you want to see them now, search around the Sonic Stadium message board in the Sonic Riders topic (page 31, I think) or go to Sonic Heroines. --Evilradiodude

http://www.livejournal.com/users/soodacrazy/1027.html#cutid1                   theres a link to some characters off of Sonic Riders - Cargo chaos
 * That's nice, but I can easily tell they don't appreciate the pictures having been taking without their permission anymore than I personally appreciate the big, bulky pictures making that list all cluttered. I'm removing the lot of 'em and putting them on Images for Deletion; they really serve no use here, and, well, no permission was granted. --Shadow Hog 02:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

All of these characters are confirmed on the official site except the Chaotix and Aiai. You can not count the Chaotix as confirmed characters!!! Where is there any official info about them in the game. And there is a Robo 3 who is probably flight type as shown by this link:

http://media.cube.ign.com/media/770/770348/img_3334964.html

One thing, is it confirmed that all those characters will appear? I mean, there's a pauline the bat and characters from super mario listed in the confirmed characters!!! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonic Hedgehog (talk &bull; contribs).
 * There is no Robo 3 remotely confirmed; I'm still betting that that's just a generic enemy you only see in that one stage, and is purely for decoration.
 * As for the random characters, that was vandalism. We've been getting a lot of it on this article lately; I wonder if Semi-Protection would be of use here... --Shadow Hog 14:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of characters, why did we delete the Character Attacks off the page? Just curious, sorry. <3 SSG 02:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

ARK

 * Space Colony ARK?
 * In a recent trailer, a short and dark scene of Sonic falling through an ARK-like place can be seen. It isn't confirmed if this is ARK, but if it is, then it appears that Ark will be featured as one of the courses. A floating particle during the scene seems to indicate that this is in fact the space colony 'ARK;' however, due to gameplay footages at Gamespot, it may in fact simply be 'Sand Ruins' (as a similar block can be found there). Hope can't be given up yet, though. There's a new screenshot on the U.S. gamesite of Jet in a area that bares a striking resemblence to 'Lost Colony,' an Ark level of Eggman's in Sonic Adventure 2.

Can somebody please provide me with links to both of those things (in bold), because I have never seen them.--Ac1983fan 21:13, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The earlier one is actually Sand Ruins. However, at the U.S. Gamesite the later one can be seen in the screenshots. It'll start you off at the newer screenshots. First, go to 'Media,' then go to 'Screenshots.' Click the right arrow a few times and you should see Jet on a wall. Just after that is a screen that looks like Jet falling in an Ark-like area. I've also ripped out the image (though purposely leaving the backgrounds) and uploaded it to my site . I should know, I'm the one who wrote (and re-wrote; after confirming that the former was Sand Ruins) that small article. --Ultimate 03:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Yah, I meant to post I found the image of jet...--Ac1983fan 14:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry guys. It is simpily a scene from Night Chase. It is the lower level of the begining course. Just don't jump at all at the begining ramp and you will find it... ~Seros

Stats
Who the hell changed Wave and Shadow's stats?! Just because Wave is a flight character, doesn't mean she'll have the same stats as Tails. And just because Shadow's a speed character, doesn't mean he'll have the same as the others. This might be the case, but if it was on the demo disc, then that's how the stats are. Can someone (who has played the demo) please explain this for me? Also, for stats of characters who weren't confirmed, DON'T add them. Same goes for Shadow and Rouge--I just left them because I didn't know if their stats were really known or not. --Ultimate 18:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

"who the hell changed Wave and"

Lol:P oh yea not me:)
 * &gt;x&lt;ino 21:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

A while back, Wave's stats were released - one website had pictures of their stats from in game. And I know for a fact that she had different stats from Tails - she had 4, 3, 3, 2. I changed it back.

If you find this website please, let us know -ChaosChris 03:48, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I figured that much. I'm actually not very surprised that Shadow and Rouge would have the same stats as her, but I just want to know where the information came from. As ChaosChris said, if you can find the site, please let us know. --Ultimate 04:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Strongly agree. Maybe we should inform the higher workers in Wiki: about Rumours
 * Like- When adding a rumour or information and others are not aware of, please state the site where you got the information from.
 * &gt;x&lt;ino 04:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I am incredibly sorry about that. At the time I typed it up, I couldn't quite remember the website. However, I do have it now: http://www.geocities.jp/ao_gram/sonic/TGS2005.html. The pictures were taken at the Tokyo Game Show. The Sonic Riders screens are after the Shadow and Sonic Rush sections.


 * Hmm... interesting. So is there any proof of Shadow and/or Rouge with THEIR stats?! If not, then we should remove them. --Ultimate 16:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, Rouge and Shadow's stats have not been released. They're not in the demo and the only screenshots of the two are up on the Japanese Sonic Riders site. It wouldn't surprise me if Rouge did have the same stats as Wave and Shadow had the same stats as the rest of the speed characters, but for now we don't know for certain. So yes, they should be removed.


 * Nah, I think Shadow could fit those stats. Either way, I changed it back. Who knows, maybe it turns out to be correct? --Ultimate 01:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)