Talk:Sonic Riders/Archive 2

Clarification
I clarified a few things:

-I added NiGHTS and Ulala in the rumoured list (since they are the most rumored of all) -I backed up the argument that there may be more characters than 17 -I removed the rumor that individual characters get their own story since that seems to be dissolved by the Japanese site, as they mention, Sonic is focus of Race 1, Tails of Race 2, Knux of Race 3 etc. My guess is that it'll be Sonic Adventure 2 styled stories --Kitsune Inferno 21:52, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think that's the case. Actually, I think only certain parts of the story are mentioned, while there are different cutscenes depending on the character. I will admit, though, that's a "possibility." --Ultimate 23:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Robo 1 and 2
According to the English site it says the red is Robo 1 and power type and the green is Robo 2 and speed type. But, the Japanese site says that the red is E-10000R and Speed type and the green is E-10000G and power type! Which is it? Red: speed or power?

According to the japanese website, E10000r (Red) is speed, and E10000g (Green) is Power. I'm alittle more willing to trust the japanese website in this case (though this game is comming out in america earlier). I did edit it but if anyone has anything more reliable, please correct me. ChaosChris 07:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * No, it's some sort of glitch. Look at E-10000r's profile. You probably can't read the text, but you CAN read the name "E-10000g" in the text. Translated info points more toward the robots' profiles being glitched out, and appearing incorrectly. "G" is speed, and "R" is power. --Ultimate 16:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I have unlocked E-10000g, and when i was clicking its profie in the game, it was the "power" type. --BOB small.form.of.NIGHTS 22:35, 3 Mar 2006 (UTC)

Gallery
Since their is a gallery section,instead of me adding a gameplay picture...I will add character pictures:P
 * "Xino and out!" &gt;x&lt;ino 21:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Fang and Julie-Su
someone has mention these characters in the article, i dont think these characters will return... and the 4 left are probally super sonic and the chaotix. but if thats not the case then i hope to god that fang will be there. i dunno about the julie person i dont really know much about her...


 * Julie-Su is an ARCHIE-ONLY character! She won't appear in the game. Fang... he's mostlikely not going to appear in the game, also, but he may have a cameo appearance--though it's unlikely seeming as he's scrapped. --Ultimate 14:45, 15 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah. I forgot about the whole Archie thing. Oh well I would rather see Fang!

Don't be so sure. I didn't really think the Chaotix would come back but they did and they're just as old as Fang ;) Kitsune Inferno 21:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh no, you've mistaken me. I think he has a high chance of returning. In fact, I think he WILL return--just not in Sonic Riders. --Ultimate 23:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

''Just seen a programme on the telly showing a review of riders, they had Nack the Weasel riding a cool little hoverbike ^_^ so cool. It was like a couple of seconds but im sure it was him, im hoping that it wasnt a costume the other characters can wear. I really wished id taped it, did anyone else catch this?'' * has now turned out to be false (Broa)

No I didn't see it, but there is a chance he'll be in the game, as he has been in atleast three others Sonic the Fighters,Sonic Triple Trouble and, Sonic Drift 2. He also have a hoverbike (the Marvelous Queen). ChaosChris 00:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Some guy at sonichq has also seen the Episode, but he says it was comparing another racing game called 'Crazy frog'? Apparently the character is from that game and does look like Nack but isnt. (Broa)

so is this GamerTV quote thing true then? cos like if that was a character of the crazy frog game that is copyin fang... and that could mean trouble


 * Just because they have a similar character, does not mean that they copied Fang. The description sounded similar, but note the 'rat' part. The character was a rat, not a weasel. --Ultimate 21:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out to Julie-Su beggers that she will not come into the games ever, because:

1) Knuckles is the last echidna. Even if they made a plot involving a female echidna returning (which has been done), they'd piss a lot of fans off.

2) In Archie, Julie is going down with Knuckles. In Sega, Knuckles is going down with Rouge. I can see some definite signs of conflict that would further annoy fans from both sides.

3) Not everybody knows or cares about Julie-Su. Just Archie readers who also like Julie-Su. Julie-Su belongs to Archie. So...

4) Sega would have to negociate with Archie for the story-lines involving Julie-Su (and as an individual, I can't say much for Archie's writers ability to write a good story), which would mean that they had less control over what happens in the games, unless they bought her outright. And...

5) Why should Sega go to all the trouble of buying Julie-Su off Archie, a character many will not have heard of anyway, when they can make their own new characters for free? --Some Girl Called Harley

Console Versions
Since this game is a four player supportive
 * We need information regarding PS2 version and if it's online enabled
 * Gamecube version
 * And Xbox Version if their is xbox live

But I solely doubt, this game won't be online
 * But we still need informtion about PS2 version...remember PS2 only has 2 ports and the game supports 4 player
 * &gt;x&lt;ino 04:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Multi-tap, my friend ;) Kitsune Inferno 21:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

If any version was to have an online play the XBox would have the highest chance, but I really don't see that happening for this game, and I haven't heard anything about Xbox live support, then again it dosn't look like this game will have any online component at all. -ChaosChris 05:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I dont think there is because in this article on this website it says...

Multi-Tap..oh please, those are third parties product,
 * Anyway I dont think it will be online because Sonic games were never online!

But new sonic seems to be 360 online
 * &gt;x&lt;ino 02:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You really shouldn't doubt that the PS2 version is online... Sonic Heroes was online (on the PS2), so why wouldn't sonic riders?--Ac1983fan 21:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

SINCE WHEN WAS SONIC HEROES ON-LINE?! ~SonicHedgehog

Playstation 2 does have online too -Evil Sonic

ESRB "E10+"
Apparently, ESRB has bumped Riders' rating up from the original "E" to "E10+". Source:. I wonder what ST has in the game that makes it worthy of the bumping.--Shadowsrevenge96 20:14, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Nope, it's E, set in stone. Some forms of the boxart are given E-10, and RP. The game is so close to release, it couldn't possibly be bumped up to an E-10+ now. --Ultimate 23:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

That's late, I hate that topic... --Evil Sonic

Eggman Voice
I recon what they did with eggman by using deems voice is such a nice thing to do! that is like really really really nice. when i seen gameplay movie with eggman when he said 'do you think you can beat me' at the begginin of the race, i thought 'wooooah mike actually done a good job with that!' cos he sounded the exact same but now i know why
 * I think he had that voice from old clips because deem bristow is dead. --Ac1983fan 15:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Shadow's Gear
Alright guys, I have a confirmation on his gear. Surprisingly enough, Shadow's gear is the name I thought it might be--Darkness. It is NOT called 'Revenge.' Oh, and his default gear is a pair of skates. Someone on TSS posted it in the message boards. In the Sonic Riders topic (linked prior) find a post that tells what is unlocked for beating the Hero Story. You unlock Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Mission Mode, Babylon Story, Tempation, Smile, and Darkness for beating it. --Ultimate 02:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you unlock those things during the story, not after you beat it.--Ac1983fan 20:30, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Nope, after beating the Hero Story, you unlock them. Eggman, E-Rider, and the Magic Carpet are unlocked by beating the Babylon Story. --Ultimate 00:55, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Any Character can use Darkness, so I would not consider it Shadows' Gear.--SBG 14:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Every character has a 'default' gear. Darkness can be used by almost anyone, yes, but it is still Shadow's default gear. --Ultimate 19:55, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Charmy Bee Rumours
To whoever keeps putting up Charmy Bee as a character (and his Extreme Gear being called Bee Board)... STOP IT, PLEASE! It is obvious Charmy is not in the game because NiGHTS, Aiai and Ulala take up the last three spots. Besides, the lack of Vector and Espio helps prove it is false. Anyway, I don't see Amy Birnbaum's (the voice of Charmy in Sonic X and from Shadow the Hedgehog to the presebt) in the credits. So Charmy is NOT in the game. End of discussion. Shadoman

Plot
Someone needs to reword the plot section. Not only is it not encyclopedic but it sounds like someone ripped it off a gaming website. Jedi6 01:17, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I deleted the whole plot and tried to put in the same story, but slightly more encyclopedic and I wrote the new story myself. If it needs improving, just ask me. Shadoman, 6 March 2006

Gloom Banby?
In the Unlockables section, it says "Beat Amy in free race". That doesn't make any sense. Could someone who knows what the Gloom Banby is and has please fix that? --Ac1983fan 16:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it's false, because Amy is in a lot of the races I do, and I often win. But despite that, the Black Market doesn't get any new Extreme Gear! Who put up the Gloom Banby as an unlockable?! Shadoman, 12 March 2006

Omochao wrong gender help
Maybe a few of you noticed this, but sometimes when your playing as male characters (such as Shadow) when you do a nice landing, Omochao says "and SHE makes a nice/smooth landing". Why does he do that? PS: please try not to include S-E-X in your ansewr.

It's probably just a glitch. Once, I heard Omochao call Amy a male. Then again, maybe it's just because of his voice... Shadoman, March 8 2006

You know, I was once playing story mode, and Omochao said "Wave has lost HIS balance."

This occurs quite a lot during the game but it's probably because of other background noises that you misinterprate what he's saying cause it's happened to quite a number of people. Knuckles sonic8 02:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Tricks.
Look. I have played the game and I know for a fact that you do NOT need to hold the R button to do tricks. I'm changing it back again, and for the last time you JUST need to use the control stick. That is all.

Excatly! On Ps2 R1 nor R2 are used in racing, neither is triganle. The only thig used are the left stick square, 0, and most importantly X -Hurricane593

Genie
The Babylon Rogues aren't "real genies". They're robbers (possibly all birds) whose island sunk, so they can't live there anymore. Jet, Wave, and Storm is part of the Babylon Rogues. And even though they have a magic carpet, the carpet is actually a cloth that flies because of technology. So the Babylon Rogues aren't "real genies". Just because their symbol is a lamp, it doesn't mean that they're genies. --71.105.12.174 03:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Well said. The Babylon Guardian is the only real genie, and the game specifically states that Jet is a hawk, Wave is a swallow and Storm is an albatross. Shadoman, 21 March 2006

Thank you. So should we get rid of the info that said they were genies? --71.118.80.130 05:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, we definitely should. Shadoman

At the end of the game it is said that they are descended from genies. They're not actually genies, but their ancestors were.

Since they're ancestors were genies, the Rogues are probably part genie.:MindWraith

HAHA no way Jet, Wave and Storm r genies. That would b just strange. Its the past Babylon Rouges who were genies. I guess there part genie, cause i heard Storm go on about 3 Wishes in the 1st babylon story.=Leanne Wardrop