Talk:Sony MCL-300C

Adapters
Adapters do not make a lens "FD", "FL" or "EF" etc. Thanks.Tstrobaugh (talk)
 * Adapters don't make a lens "xy", that's right. But it's the other way around, Canon mount lenses could be officially used on some Sony Mavica cameras using this adapter (there might have been some cooperation between Sony, Canon and Nikon at this time). Like a tele converter, a lens adapter can be considered "kind-of-a-lens" and therefore can be listed in that category IMHO (unless we want to create yet another sub-category like "xy-mount converters and adapters" or such, which would be overkill). In either case, it helps people find the information. Therefore I'll restore your edit. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 15:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You mean revert my edit? You say canon mount lenses could be used on sony cameras? So by your theory all the FD, FL and EF lenses should also have the category Sony A-mount lenses? Why just this one lens, most lenses have adapters to other brand's cameras. What is your solution? Mine is that the adapter is not the lens or the camera and therefore should not be included in the category as such.Tstrobaugh (talk)
 * No, this is not what I meant. Well, this is about Sony Mavicas, not A-mount or E-mount cameras. But to use your example, neither Minolta, Konica Minolta, Sony or Canon ever manufactured an adapter to mount Canon lenses on A-mount cameras. However, if one of these companies would have developed such an adapter, it would make sense to list that adapter (but not every lens!) in the corresponding compatible lens mount categories, so that it can be found. That's the very purpose of the category system.
 * Perhaps a better example: You are certainly aware of the Metabones adapters to mount Canon EF-mount lenses on Sony E-mount cameras. While not produced by one of the original manufacturers, I do in fact think that if we had an article about the corresponding Metabones adapter, it should be listed in both the Canon EF-mount and the Sony E-mount lens category. Not much different to a tele converter. It's also kind of a lens.
 * By that same logic, the Sony MCL-300C should be listed in both corresponding categories as well.
 * The alternative, as I see it, would be to create sub-categories to distinguish between OEM and third-party equipment, or create separate sub-categories for lenses, converters and adapters. While this would certainly make sense if we had hundreds of entries, I think it would be overkill for just a number of extra entries.
 * Since it is called "Sony MCL-300C", noone can confuse this with a Canon part (if this is your concern), although there must have been some kind of cooperation between Canon and Sony around that time, anyway. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 21:20, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * My position is adapters are not lenses. You say this is about "Sony Mavicas", but it's not, the MCL-300C is not a "Mavica" (Magnetic Video Camera), it is an accessory. In fact, I don't even see "MCL-300C" anywhere in the article, so the redirection is incorrect in and of itself. So I'm going to remove them also. If you want to add them to the article please so. Let me see if I can summarize your position. There are camera manufacturers (ie. Canon, Sony), there are lens manufacturers (ie. Sony, Canon) and there are 3rd Party adapter manufacturers that don't make lenses or cameras (ie. Fotodiox, Novoflex) and 3rd party adapter manufacturers that do make lenses (ie. Tamron, Sigma). Finally, I think this is your point, there are lens or camera manufacturers (ie. Canon, Sony) that make cross platform lens adapters. Sony for Canon(ie. MCL-300C) or Sony for Nikon (ie. MCL-200N [I see you did the same in that category]). And that because of the nature of the cross-platform adapter, that a company that makes cameras and lenses also makes an adapter for a competitor that also makes cameras and lenses, that this deserves to be called a "lens" in the competitors line-up? I don't follow this logic, since Tamron and Sigma also make lenses. Also the M42 Leica mount is a cross-platform mount so there are many adapters made for lenses and cameras by the lens and camera manufacturers themselves (voightlander) as well as 3rd party adapters. You'll have to address all these concerns to clear this up for me. Thanks.Tstrobaugh (talk)