Talk:Soot

Carbon black
"this use accounts for around 85% of the carbon black market" o_O what? Carbon black market? As in [Carbon black] [market], or [Carbon] [black market]? Slightly confusing.


 * Not really, its clearly "[Carbon black] [market]" from the context, i.e an article about 'carbon black'. StealthFox 05:01, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

It might be useful to include an explanation that carbon black is an essential component in the manufacture of tires of various kinds, as it improves the traction and wear characteristics of both natural and synthetic rubbers. Perhaps, just a mention, with a referral to tire manufacturing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homebuilding (talk • contribs) 01:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Need to incorporate discussions of furnace black and thermal blacks, the most commercially viable forms of carbon black, much, much larger volume markets than lampblack.

Reflectivity
"Lampblack produced in this way is both the darkest and least reflective substances known."

Can that statement really be true?


 * Over the visible light portion of the spectrum, maybe. Check this out: http://www.tinmantech.com/assets/images/anneal6.JPG Now that's low reflectivity if'n I never seen it!

Lamp Black in Candy
Lamp black is NOT used as a coloring agent in candy. Lamp black is made from incompletely burned petroleum, and is considered to be carcinogenic. Licorice candy is colored with molasses, carmel, and a mixture of food colorings.Iepeulas 02:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed, removed...

I'm still confused as to whether soot is the stuff in the bottom of your fire when it's gone out.


 * It is not. That's ash, and consists primarily of unburned material. Soot consists of burned and re-formed fuel. Maury 22:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Firelight is not blackbody radiation
Blackbody radiation is an idealization of a uniform substance with unit emissivity in thermal equilibrium. The conditions existing within a flame are far removed from those of thermal equilibrium. In particular, there is an intense intrinsic source of thermal energy in the form of the chemical reactions producing the flame. It is, therefore, incorrect to characterize the thermal radiation produced by soot in a flame as "blackbody radiation". Hetware 03:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Photo of the truck is a fake
Unless the semi truck in the photo just thew a connecting rod at the point the photo was taken, the smoke plumes in the photo are fake. Even if a diesel engine smokes bad, it is never that bad. If a truck has bad engine that smokes, the truck and its trailer quickly get coated in a layer of grime. The tanker trailer in the photo is clean and shows no signs of soot. It appears the folks at the EPA are employing trickery to make a political point. 98.108.76.78 (talk) 12:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Plumes even larger than those shown are commonly seen when a "large diesel truck, without particle filters" accelerates under load, especially when double-clutching, right after a gear change, or when the engine has not yet warmed up. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust#Variation_with_engine_conditions    Ocdnctx (talk) 18:56, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Not on any modern truck (electronic fuel injection), no. This image was a propaganda image from the EPA, and the truck pictured dates from the 1970s and is notably NOT under load. The image is also pretty much irrelevant to the article subject -- a more appropriate image would be depicting an image of soot by itself, not diesel exhaust. Stian (talk) 15:26, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Merge with Black carbon
These pages seem to refer to the same substance, and perhaps they should be merged.

--Ilnyckyj (talk) 21:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Role in Global Warming
These sentences contradict one another "The absorbed fraction of solar radiation results in surface cooling because the solar radiation that would have reached the Earth is absorbed in the atmosphere. Although surface warming is seen under these conditions, atmospheric warming is also observed because the incoming radiation is trapped in the atmosphere.[10]" I believe that the second sentence is correct because conversion of solar radiation to heat in the troposphere by soot would be expected to increase surface warming. What exactly does the author mean by surface temperature; the temperature of the ground or the temperature of the air at ground-level. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hammond Forest (talk • contribs) 17:15, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree that they contradict, just wanted to log my opinion as well. I recommend removing the argument or going through the paper to see what the author really meant. 128.156.10.80 (talk) 14:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)9/13/10 Mike134

Diesel Soot
Also, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_soot #REDIRECT []. I was dismayed that diesel wasn't included. By now most of us know that unfiltered diesel engines spew particulates. Are railroad train engines that fill the neighborhoods with the characteristic diesel odor filtered ... I think not. So far, The Diesel Emissions Reduction Act is active only in CA and has little focus on Railroad Lines. See: http://www.epa.gov/cleandiesel/documents/fy12-dera-infosession-presentation.pdf. — Preceding signed comment added by PointyHairedEE (talk • contribs) 16:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC) PointyHairedEE (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

The United States' DERA (Diesel Emmisions Reduction Act) program provides funds for clean diesel conversion
The United States' DERA (Diesel Emmisions Reduction Act) program provides funds for clean diesel conversion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdnctx (talk • contribs) 15:14, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Soot, Black Carbon, Carbon black
Please see my suggestions at Talk:Carbon_black. --NHSavage (talk) 13:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I’m still somewhat confused after reading that discussion ... -- Dustfreeworld (talk) 11:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)