Talk:Sophie of France (1786–1787)

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Sophie Hélène Béatrice de France
Princess Sophie Hélène Béatrice NOT Béatrix. Mistake was made by person who created the article back on 11 November 2006, and it was never corrected. Also, the word Princess does not have to go in title of article, no more than title of her sister's article is Princess Marie-Thérèse Charlotte of France, but Marie-Thérèse Charlotte de France. Titles etc. come later in article. I am thus moving article to
 * Sophie Hélène Béatrice de France, *de France* being her surname.

Frania W. (talk) 18:34, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Was the baby Sophie also called Madame Sophie?
Was she *really* known as Madame Sophie at such a young age, or is this a mistake based on the previous version of the first paragraph of the Biography section? It said, "She was known as Madame Sophie." But the antecedent for "She" was the baby's great-aunt, not the baby Sophie. I verified in the great-aunt Sophie's article that she was called Madame Sophie later in life. We need a verifiable citation that the baby Sophie was also called Madame Sophie or not.


 * Section Styles here:, at wiki article Fils de France . --Frania W. (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, do the sections Ancestry and Titles, styles, honours and arms need introductory text? I thought the collapsed section was reserved for the end or side of articles, and given she only has one title, is there a reason to use a bulleted list?

The quote by her mother that refers to a quote about Sophies's older sister's birth--should we include that quote here?

Sorry that all I can do right now is capture these questions. I'll try to come back and work on these points, but any advice you care to give or editing you care to do yourself would be welcome.

--Geekdiva (talk) 11:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Who the hell cares?
Why on earth does a "person" who lived only 11 months merit her own page on Wikipedia, together with a reference to her under the "significant" dates pages?

I have seen several people's individual pages being removed because they are not "notable" enough, even if they have sold some records or published books (just not enough, I guess),and I don't have a problem with that, since we don't need everyone trying to make this a personal Who's Who self-pat on the back. But a child who doesn't even survive a whole year, let alone do anything with her life of import at all, should not be getting her own separate references all over the place (I arrived at this page via the May 7 page).

I vote that this ENTIRE "stub" get merged under Marie Antoinette.

Wikipedia's own rules state that "trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability"; the person should have "made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field"; and last, but certainly not least, "being related to a notable person in itself confers no degree of notability upon that person."

Prosandcons (talk) 16:03, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Somewhat more than ten years later, your wish is granted, . Joyous! | Talk 21:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)