Talk:Sour Cream (band)

Founding date
Millington states that the band started in 1972, such as the notes on their recording label (Glossa) web site, as do a number of other source not cited in the article, such as Eve O'Kelly The Recorder Today (which says they were formed in the early 1970s).

Millington also states that the group was intended to be an avant-garde recorder trio, as does the web site of their recording label (Glossa).

Theodulf


 * In that case, cite one or more of these sources (or one or two of the ones in Further reading, which also confirm 1972 as the founding date), instead of the one source that gives 1969 instead. It is really very simple.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 03:48, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Dutch counterculture movement
I also found the following at (is this where the Boston Globe got the story?) which should probably be added to the article too.

Brüggen’s keen sense of opposition and contradiction led him to many of his important discoveries in the field of recorder technique. Those same character traits also led him to question many other idées reçues of the musical order. He became interested in avant-garde contemporary music, and cultivated friendships with some eminent contemporary composers; one day, during his Baroque seminar at Harvard [with this writer in attendance], he taunted his students by playing the solo piece that avant-garde composer Luciano Berio had written for him, and defying his listeners to pick out the mistakes he was deliberately inserting in Berio’s hard-to-read score. His involvement with the Dutch counterculture movement led to some unusual moments during his recitals: at a [Boston] concert with the trio Sour Cream (Brüggen plus two of his student-colleagues, Kees Boeke and Walter van Hauwe), the last piece featured a Keystone-Kops chase around the concert stage. A season or two later, the same trio performed again in Boston more determined than ever to épater les bourgeois. While Kees and Walter played Telemann duos, Brüggen wandered onto the Jordan Hall stage, donned a pair of dark sunglasses, stretched himself out on a chaise longue, and nonchalantly began reading a copy of the daily newspaper. The event provoked an indignant editorial from the Boston Globe a couple of days later. At least some members of the educated classes, who often brush their teeth in the morning to the strains of canned Vivaldi, had failed to get the satirical point. Les bourgeois — or some of them, at any rate — were not amused.

Theodulf 03:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theodulf (talk • contribs)


 * All of this is perfectly true, as far as I am aware (despite the dubious provenance), though of course on Wikipedia what matters is verifiability, not truth. Of course nothing in it establishes a connection with the "Dutch counter-culture movement", whatever that might have been.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 04:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)