Talk:South African College Schools

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A good looking article, but it needs many more references: see Category:GA-Class school articles and Category:FA-Class school articles for examples of relatively well-sourced school articles. --Jh12 (talk) 12:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

This page is one which was created in order to describe the extensive history of the South African College Schools. It is not a place for students to place their names in order to glorify themselves. Encyclopedias work on the basis of being named for extreme achievement. I do not suggest that people should play around, adding bits and pieces of useless information which compounds on the size of the article. It is simply to provide readers a basic yet detailed history and current events (in small) of the school and not a 300 page essay of the detailed glory of the SA College, that you go to Neil Veitch's book. If you want to elaborate on the clubs and sporting activities, make sure you do it for every single one or do not do them at all. It is best not to mention trivial details in any case. Leaving the bullet points is enough (refer to other colleges and school sites - simple and clear is key) --KryptonZone 14:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC) (Danny Chen)

Martin Singer?
I suggest that whoever put Singer's name there explain who he is. Or perhaps remove the name.

Adambrink 15:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I have sent a query to SACS to ask for that information --KryptonZone (talk) 01:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

POV tag
This article appears to be filled with subjective statements such as "Both schools have a rich music heritage with extremely strong music departments." Please delete or reword in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. MarkBuckles 03:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Does this work? "Both the Junior and High Schools have active Music Departments" --KryptonZone (talk) 01:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Infobox
I transferred as much as I could from the hardcoded infobox to the WikiProject Schools infobox. I couldn't find a place for an explanation of the badge. On the flipside, there's room for technical details, like which administrative region SACS falls under. (I suppose it's WCED, but these things change so often...) Warrickball (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Warrick for your efforts. Since the badge is an imporant part of the school and its history, I propose we add a section in the content body to explain the various parts of the badge. It has also been my hope to one day present a complete history of the variations of the badge that has been used in the past (nearly) two centuries. That we will have to have direct support from SACS though... I'll check with them also for the WCED thing. --KryptonZone (talk) 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I know it is nearly 10 years later, but I will work on adding an article on the different badges, from SAC, to when it split into SACS and UCT. I have quite extensive knowledge on the topic. Funkymonkflea (talk) 21:27, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Intentions for revision
I think this article needs some revision, but I'd like to make a statement of intention before I do any editing. Generally, I think it's too long and many sections are unnecessarily padded. For an article of its length, it cites very few sources, and I suspect this is because a lot of the information isn't very encyclopaedic. It suffers from a kind of pernicious creep that often affects articles whose only editors have an institutional loyalty to the subject. More specifically:

1. Much of the information about the facilities is given undue weight. For instance, the fact that computer facilities are air conditioned is not relevant.

2. It uses imprecise (and sometimes innacurate) language with respect to time. The junior school's media center was built in the '90s -- it's not "new". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Precise_language)

3. There remains quite a bit of POV language -- though this has improved. I can't think of a measure by which the Triangular can neutrally be described as "prestigious".

4. We don't need a table with pictograms to describe the school's sporting activities -- there are only sixteen listed.

5. Notable old boys without Wikipedia articles can hardly be considered notable old boys.

6. There are a handful of errors of style. For some reason, schools seem to try to wedge as many capital letters into articles about themselves as they can. Neither high school, junior school, media center, old boy nor water polo should receive caps.Oldernews (talk) 11:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)