Talk:South African Premier Division

VFD Merge
The Inland Stream and Coastal Stream information was merged per vfd: could someone ensure that accurate (historical) information about these is included in the article? many thanks. -- Francs2000 | Talk 21:06, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

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Can someone please add a map with all the teams to the article. A map of SA with the 16 2010-11 teams locaions on it, I think that it would be a great addition to the article. I would love to do it, but don't know how. Crazydude22 (talk) 15:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)


 * OK but we will need some help getting back into my account number 41.114.216.69 (talk) 22:18, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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Current notable players proposal
Only players who have been a squad member at a FIFA sanctioned finals event (World Cup, AFCON, Confed Cup) should be included. Including every player with 1 or 2 friendly caps would make the list massive. Comments? Crazydude22 (talk) 09:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Current Products
What is the criteria for the players listed in this section? A number of the players listed no longer play for clubs in other confederations.

Are we listing only those who are currently playing abroad (i.e. Pienaar, Serero, Claasen, etc) or also listing those who have previously played abroad (Gaxa, Okonkwo, Awal, etc)?

Would it be alright if I cleaned up this section, so that only players still played abroad are listed?

Kamg213 (talk) 13:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It's gotten outdated, I think that it should only be players currently in other confederations. Crazydude22 (talk) 07:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 12 March 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number   5  7  10:44, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

South African Premier Division → Premier Soccer League Premier Division – The name "South African Premier Division was created purely for this page. The two divisions are the premier division and the first division, but the league's name is the premier soccer league. The most commonly used name for the division is the PSL, but the name Premier Soccer League is used for the entire league. I'd also propose that each division's season follow the policy would also follow the Currie Cup. Thus 2014-15 Premier Soccer League Premier Division Relisted -- Calidum  05:06, 24 March 2015 (UTC) Crazydude22 (talk) 11:27, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 16:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Far less recognisable to most readers. Should we relist and consider alternatives? Andrewa (talk) 16:40, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd be open to alternatives, I feel that the current name is not suitable. Crazydude22 (talk) 12:42, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well then, have a good read of WP:AT, look for relevant evidence, form a conclusion on the best article name, and present it. Not an easy one I can see. Andrewa (talk) 16:20, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Andrewa, happy to consider a re-name if a viable alternative can be proposed. GiantSnowman 16:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Well, it has been relisted., any luck with alternatives? There seems tentative support for a rename to some other title, depending on what it is of course. Andrewa (talk) 20:06, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


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Merger proposal
This page should be merged with the Premier Soccer League. There is no such thing as the "South African Premier Division", it's the PSL (Premier Soccer League). The second tier is the National First Division (NFD), and both are administered by the National Soccer League (NSL). At some stage in the past, an editor mistook the PSL for the NSL, hence the current mess with many of the articles poorly named. Greenman (talk) 14:18, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose merge. My reading is that the National Soccer League (South Africa) existed until 1995, but following the merge with National Professional Soccer League (South Africa) the new body using the trading name Premier Soccer League was created. Looking that the 'about' page on the PSL website currently shows: "The Premier Soccer League (PSL) is the trading name of the National Soccer League (NSL)"


 * I agree that the official name may well be NSL, the name it is best known by (the trading name) is the PSL. Given the general Wikipedia policy of using the name best-known-by, it seems reasonable to keep the current page name. Given that National First Division had its own page, it also seems reasonable that the top-tier league, the South African Premier Division, should also have its own page. Klbrain (talk) 19:55, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Closed. Klbrain (talk) 10:55, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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User talk:41.114.101.208 has done some major rework on this article (see these edits), but my reason for wanting to revert is that this article is about the top league, formed in 1996. It is not the place for a list of cup winners, nor the place for a list of champions from one of the multiple leagues run in parallel, and at one point based on racial classifications, before that. Since these changes were extensive, I'm asking for comment before reverting. Greenman (talk) 15:41, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
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