Talk:South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut/Archive 1

Banned
I removed the sentence "The movie was banned in Iraq because the movie features Saddam Hussein as a homosexual." Virtually all movies were banned in Iraq during Saddam's era! -- Eagleamn 06:42, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * True. Then again, if it is possible to 'really, really ban' something, this would probably do it in Saddam's Iraq. -Litefantastic 00:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think that line should of been deleted. I am sure there has been many things banned under his regime, but simply the fact that this movie actually featured 'him' and he was somewhat of a key character. I think it should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tydamann (talk • contribs) 05:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack
Was this realeased just on CD, or does in come on tape and LP too? -Litefantastic 00:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I think I remeber it also being released on Tape, not totally sure but The Tape was still being used in 99. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.68.102 (talk • contribs).

controversy creates controversy
I feel like many of the statements made in the "Controversy" section of this article require citation. For instance, it would be nice to see an external link that affirms the author's allegation that film critics responded positively to the movie. Grammar nazi 09:23, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm surprised they havent made fun of the ultimate controversey of did the USA actually land on the moon? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.68.102 (talk • contribs).

The moon landing is as actually controversial as whether the earth is a oblong sphere. Only some fringe morons have any doubt. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.89.54.207 (talk • contribs).

Metallica on the soundtrack
This is actually true; Metallica DID record the song "Kenny goes to hell". http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_faq_search.php?section=2&id=11287&search_faq= —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.225.76.183 (talk • contribs).

I have a quick question.
I'm currently making my own South Park DVDs and with my settings I am able to fit 48 episodes and still have room for at least the movie. But my problem is I just dont know after which episode I should watch the movie. Thanks in advanced. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.68.102 (talk • contribs).


 * It doesn't really matter. I saw this before I saw any of the other episodes, and I still found it funny. Chronologically (by air date) it would be after Tweek vs. Craig (305). Another possibility is to put it at the end of Season 3, since that would be after 48 episodes. Out of curiosity, what program are you using to make them? Corky842 18:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * It's After Tweek vs. Craig and Before Sexual Harassment Panda Mohaas05 16:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Merge tag
Here because of Articles for deletion/Asses of Fire. Petros471 17:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Merging....
There's been call to merge in the character stubs & a number of songs have lost their lyrics due to copyright concerns. Therefore, here is a list of articles that are available for merging, based on the given criteria.


 * 1) Gregory of Yardale: done; preserved content.
 * 2) Mole (South Park): done; preserved content, except quotes, which happen to be most of his dialogue from the movie.
 * 3) I Can Change: done; redirect; no lyrics.
 * 4) Up There: done; redirect; song is already mentioned in this article.
 * 5) Asses of Fire: done; preserved content.

Cwolfsheep 01:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Brian Wilson reference
I posted this question on the Brian Wilson talk page as well. In the South Park movie, there was a line about the Canadian government "apologizing" for Brian Wilson. Since Wilson is not Canadian, this does not make much sense. Does anyone know what they were talking about? Or was it just a random stupid joke? (South Park is known for that, but usually there's at least some relevance to their jokes.) --Lurlock 20:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

It was Bryan Adams, not Brian Wilson. --ExcellentPearl 21:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The Mole
Shouldnt we assume that as Kenny's wish was that everything went back to the way it was before that The Mole is alive again? I have a feeling I'm going to be wrong on this though —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.6.46.26 (talk • contribs).

Mole is alive again and seen on TV in a later episode. Im not sure which one though. --Tobin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.249.90.17 (talk • contribs).

When does it say that his mother tried to abort him? Was that the weird "coat hanger" line? 72.11.37.92 01:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Affirmative. 58.178.16.231 11:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Possible Trivia Item?
Could I add to the list of trivia items the fact that Trey Parker got in Duran Duran's Nick Rhodes to provide the voicing for the "Canadian Fighter Pilot" role in this movie? I've never seen the movie but I remember very clearly hearing about this bit of casting, which I confirmed by going to the movie's IMDb page, and people from the Duran fan sites talked about how this particular fighter pilot apparently bombed the Baldwin brothers in a scene. I recognize this is a very minor aspect of the movie, but maybe it's worth mentioning, especially in relation to Trey Parker's and Matt Stone's Duran fanhood. Krushsister 22:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC) (Sorry, edited to reflect my proper username because I didn't know I wasn't logged in.)


 * Speaking of trivia, I've removed "Both releasing studios of this film each made a movie starring Pee-wee Herman: Paramount made Big Top Pee-wee, and Warner Bros. made Pee-wee's Big Adventure." because it has nothing to do with the movie. Lovok 11:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Good idea, if it has nothing to do with the movie then it doesn't really belong in a trivia section. Cat-five - talk 06:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Trivia section needs to be trimmed. Saying that Stan is revealed to be a computer whiz is hardly of any material interest. Pointing out that Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus is parodied is so obvious I can't imagine it being relevant. 24.18.162.88 06:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding point that the title "Bigger, Longer, Uncut" is a fairly obvious reference to an uncircumcised penis, seem to recall either Trey or Matt mentioning it in an interview, will add reference when available. --It's cold out here, and there are wolves after me. Angolon 11:14, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

insulting the reader?
Do we need to insult the reader's intelligence by pointing out that the title is a double entendre? This isn't the simple version of wikipedia. Abc30 00:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The article is rife with explanations or jokes, which is not only unsourced and unverifiable, but just plain dumb. No offense. Ashmoo 06:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Kyle's mom is a bitch
On part of the trivia it says that Cartman is saying "...she's a super-king-kamehameha bitch!" He's actually saying "she's a super king-kong mega-mega bitch!"--Yowiki 14:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Yo can somebody remove the trivia part where it says Cartman is saying "...she's a super-king-kamehameha bitch!" please?Yowiki 16:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, he says "super King Kamehameha". I just checked it against the closed captioning on the DVD. Koweja 02:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

In fact, in one article or another that mentions the song, that exact quote is written as one of the common botched lyrics of the song. 72.11.37.92 00:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

One more trivia item
Just added the item about the two aliens. Please verify this and edit it if needed. There might be more aliens throughout the movie, so if someone spots any, please include them in the trivia. As much as I know, the hidden aliens are a running easter egg on South Park. Apparently it's so in the film too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.25.59.8 (talk • contribs).

Saddam & America
"reflecting the tendency of the rulers of many Middle Eastern nations to blame America for their own problems" - This is probably more in reference to America's involvement in Saddam coming into power. From the article on Saddam: "Saddam, and others overthrew Abdul Rahman Arif in the bloodless coup of 1968, again with the backing of the CIA". Kernow 23:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Dragonball Z?
When cartman is unleashing his string of curse words he powers up like in Dragonball Z. Also, I think that when Cartman refers to the Kamehameha in "Kyle's Mom is a Bitch" I always thought he was referring to Dragonball Z and not King Kamehameha. Can anyone else verify because I always thought that'd be some pretty interesting trivia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.100.12.98 (talk • contribs).
 * It could be a reference to DBZ but he quite clearly says King Kamehameha rather than just Kamehameha. Gdo01 06:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Trivia: German Version
No. No it doesn't. The german version keeps the scat-video as a german video. No idea who thought that one up, but - removed without replacement. Also, I really should register. Again. 80.137.83.53 15:00, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

it does. from the german wikipedia entry:

Ursprünglich sollte auf der Porno-Website ein Mann Sex mit einem Pferd haben. Sex mit Tieren darzustellen wurde aber verboten. Außerdem ist der Mann im Original ein Deutscher, in der deutschen Version jedoch ein Engländer

roughly, as far as i can tell: blah blah, was originally suposed to be horse-porn, blah blah also the original has german scat, even tho in the german version its english-scat

i'll put the info back up under trivia --Dak 21:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Japanese Version
I don't understand it. These differences don't seem at all significant enough to mention, and some of them seem like the editor wasn't sure of the facts at all. Where are the sources? Can anyone confirm these? I do not have access to a Japanese version so it is rather difficult to know for myself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hyokano (talk • contribs).
 * I agree, not significant at all - all it basically says is it was translated into Japanese (obviously) and a few minor sound changes. Removing it, feel free to revert if you feel I acted too hastily. Code E 03:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Christophe DeLorne?
Where in the world does it officially state The Mole's last name as DeLorne? I could've sworn that was just fanon. ExcellentPearl 02:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the surnames, as I can find no source (apart from this article) which suggests this. Watch37264 18:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Where Quotes Deleated?
Where are the quotes?Themasterofwiki 18:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * On Wikiquote where they belong. See the link at the bottom. Gdo01 18:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Goofs: V-Chip
Actually, if you watch Cartman while he sings the Brian Boitano song with the other boys, he does not actually sing 'ass' or 'shit'.--Gazzster 06:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how that got in there. It used to be a note about Cartman saying hell near the end. Of course, some people are more concerned about making less trivia or having sources as opposo being factually accurate. -- Scorpion 06:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Goofs: V-Chip II
Sorry to be a pedantic Peter, but about Cartman saying hell toward the end of the film: we'll remember that the chip was malfunctioning, (spoiler coming!) which is the plot device that enables Cartman's potty mouth to save the day. So it is not inconsistent that the chip does not electrocute him. If it was really a gaff, I don't think Trey and Parker would have allowed anything so obvious to make the final cut.--Gazzster 23:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I concur. I figured that by the time he fries Saddam the V-chip is toasted and no longer works anymore. MGlosenger 23:18, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I think I can safely remove the reference.--Gazzster 00:40, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Asses of Fire
Under the heading Asses of Fire it says "The movie's creators may have found inspiration from the experiences of the star of the rock group The Who's rock opera Tommy, whose title character is sexually molested by his Uncle Ernie." - this contradicts what it says on the Uncle Fucka article which is more believable. It also seems to be an assumption rather than a fact, as it states the shows creators may have found inspiration from etc. Rewrite to match what is says under the Uncle Fucka article? JameiLei 00:29, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Mary Kay Bergman
The article currently states that Mary Kay Bergman was supposed to perform the song at the Oscars. However, the Oscar nominations didn't come out until about three months after Bergman's death; at the time of her death, there was no guarantee that "Blame Canada" would be nominated, nor even that Bergman would be asked to perform it if it was nominated. However, I can't think of a good way to rephrase this part. --Metropolitan90 16:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Plot Rewrite
The plot at the moment misses out quite a bit of stuff, that's important to the movie, so i'm just going to add to it ok?Davie4264 20:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Broken links
Two of the external links in the "Controversy" section are broken. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.225.147.193 (talk • contribs).

Goofs:Toilet humour
I may be wrong, but isn't Terrance and Phillip's humor entirely based on flatulence? However, Kyle's mom refers to it as toilet humour.--Orthologist 19:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

South Park 2
I was on countingdown.com and saw something about a second South Park movie. Anything about this? PureSoldier 14:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

"March 18, 2004 — We received this from the official South Park Studios site:

''Putting "South Park 2" down as a coming attraction is irresponsible to the fans that you will inevitably dissapoint when they learn the truth that it isn't happening. Matt and Trey do NOT want to work with Paramount again, and they do NOT want to put all that work into a South Park movie again. They have stated that *REPEATIDLY*, it has been stated even *MORE* on the official South Park website. THERE WILL BE NO SOUTH PARK 2. Matt and Trey simply WILL NOT do it. That is OFFICIAL.''"

from http://www.countingdown.com/movies/3303797/news?item_id=3408331

That's all I found. Maybe new rumours have started since '04, but I doubt it. ExcellentPearl 00:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If there is going to be no sequel then it should be added to the 'sequel' section. And do we really need a reference for 'Some fans were disappointed.[citation needed]' I am disappointed..there is your citation!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tydamann (talk • contribs) 05:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have an article verifying that you were disappointed? Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 00:37, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Number of F-words in "Uncle Fucka"
Near the top of the article, it is written that the word fuck is used 27 times in Uncle Fucka; however, later in the article it is written as "more than 30." The Uncle Fucka article itself claims over 20 usages. What is correct? -Gohst 04:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

$21,000,000?
In the infobox it is stated that the movie was made on a budget of $21,000,000. Is that actually true? It sounds really far-fetched to me.--Swellman 16:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't seem too off to me. Having the same two people do almost all of the voices and doing all of the animation on the computer must have saved a whole lot of money. 71.246.76.223 22:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's impossible that the movie cost 21,000,000$. The only thing I see expensive in this movie (ahead of George Clooney) is the orchestral music... but my guess is no more that 2,000,000$. 70.82.165.232 (talk) 21:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Pop Culture references
Maybe this article should have a list of references the movie made to popular culture or at least a list of parodies, don't you think?--Dominik92 17:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Saddam in Jail...
I definitely think there needs to be citation on the assertion that saddam was revealed to have watched this in jail... seems very odd, so at the least, it should be cited due to its strange nature.--kubfann 03:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have an example of an article that could be used? Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 00:38, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
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Saddam Hussein
Does anyone know who plays him in this movie? The credits claim the actual Hussein was the voice actor, but I don't think it's very likely...--Wack'd Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork! 21:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Matt stone dose his voice —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omgtkkyb1992 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Awards
Is this film reached box office once?(TougHHead 00:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC))

Opening bit of bias?
The opening paragraph mentions the movie has "vulgarity," isn't that a pejorative term? I tried and failed to come up with a NPOV alternative. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 13:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Differences with the original draft
Anyone able to defend the inclusion of this section? It appears to be one large junk of original research and trivia with no value. Some Wikipedia editor has compared the original script with the final version and, amazingly, found they're not the same. This is hardly noteworthy, it would be more remarkable if they were the same. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 14:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

The Mole's Voice?
I'm not sure who does Christophe's voice, although it probably is either Matt or Trey, so can someone find out and add him to the list of voices? Christophe has a rather prominent part in the movie, at least as much of a part as Gregory does, so it should be noted who does his voice, in my opinion.Voltair3 (talk) 16:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Gross revenue
Has anyone else noticed the gross revenue in the colored box at the top-right of the page is wrong?

It should be 83,137,603, rather than 83,137,60. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.185.161 (talk) 18:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I Can Change
I noticed that when you search the term I Can Change, this page comes up. How do you change it so that it redirects to the right page? Madameovary (talk) 22:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I made the change to the "I Can Change" redirect page. I believe it was originally redirecting here because of the musical number used in South Park, which may be better known than the LCD Soundsystem song. Someone with a bit more experience on Wikipedia should probably make the decision as what to do about the "I Can Change" page. Jakewood (talk) 19:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Then...
Why doesn;t anyone else help on this article? I'm the only one who looks after it. It'll never reach GA status if no one else does their share of the work, because I cannot find a lot of stuff on my own. Railer-man (talk) 23:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I cannot find any review sources that I could see as notable.Railer-man (talk) 23:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Many of us have other things we would rather work on. You can't just count on others to jump in and help you. Try using google news or newsbank, you should be able to find a number of reviews there. Also, IMDB can not be used as a source because its largely user-generated (just like wikipedia). If you want to get this to GA, you're going to have to do it the proper way, not just by re-arranging some things, removing unsourced statements and throwing random refs here and there. Perhaps you should try working on a less ambitious project, like an episode so you can get experience at copyediting and researching, then you can tackle a larger project. -- Scorpion 0422  23:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There are many potential sources at WikiProject Film/Resources. --Malkinann (talk) 07:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

New GA nom.
The article has been renominated for GA. Railer-man (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Suck My Balls
"Suck My Balls" is in here now so don't change it, capish? --E2e3v6 (talk) 23:23, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

What happened to "Suck my balls"? I type it in the plot, and it's gone. Why is that? It's a popular quote, But where is it?--E2e3v6 (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It's only a quote; it's not important. Plus, if we fit every single 'popular' quote in the plot, then it would be too full. Koopatrev (talk) 02:52, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Kenny Unhooded picture is a MASSIVE SPOILLER
Seriously, It is not revealed until the very last minutes of the film. It will Ruin the Exoerience for many, showing the picture on wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.176.205.53 (talk) 08:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, meaning nothing is censored. If viewers want to look at the background of the film any not receive any spoilers, then they shouldn't use Wikipedia. Koopatrev (talk) 02:51, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Computer-animated?
Since the show uses computer software to animate, shouldn't the beginning say that South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut is computer-animated? Koopatrev (talk) 02:49, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Whoops, my fault. Computer animated only refers to CGI. Koopatrev (talk) 17:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)