Talk:South Wales Mineral Railway

Line diagram
Is the line diagram right? I thought the sequence was North Rhondda Halt, South Pit Halt, Glyncorrwg ...

See Cooke, for example. Afterbrunel (talk) 20:22, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Page numbers
Any chance of some page numbers on the citations? Even rough ones. Thanks Andy Dingley (talk) 20:29, 2 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Wow, seven minutes after my edit. Although I notice that Reed, P.J.T. (February 1953). White, D.E., ed. The Locomotives of the Great Western Railway, Part 2: Broad Gauge. Kenilworth: The Railway Correspondence and Travel Society has been there for years without attracting attention.


 * Anyway I'll look them out later.


 * Meanwhile, if you have a minute look at the "References" section in Great North of Scotland Railway where the editor has done this within the article. I don't think that enhances the authority of Wikipedia, and it doesn't disguise that nearly all his material came from Vallance's book. The Wikipedia MOS rather cheats on the issue of handling a narrative like a railway history, where text is being written to develop a story (not as a list of events) and is taken from three or four source books in conjunction. Afterbrunel (talk) 12:34, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't know if you meant that you tried to find these supporting texts in the books I have referenced, or what ...


 * But Smith's book is a rather slim volume. South Wales Mineral Railway appears in the index at the front, and indeed it's there in pages 17 to 21, although most of page 19 is a poem in Welsh.


 * Barrie revised Baughan is also in a clearly marked section on pages 190 to 192. Page 195 refers briefly to the GWR working arrangement.


 * Awdry I presume didn't give you any trouble; there's an alphabetical index and the SWMR gets a single paragraph on page 45. (I don't usually use Awdry; after all, he is a tertiary source, like Wikipedia. But in this case he had some material that progressed further than the mainstream sources. I should mention that I don't use Railscot or Railbrit. They are just an encyclopaedia and copying their material is a bit underhand, I feel.)


 * Morgan too breaks down his book into Company-specific sections, clearly signposted in the index at the beginning: 108 to 110.


 * MacDermot vol II: I only used the text on pages 443 and 444; the other pages in the index were a bit peripheral.


 * Semmens supplied information from table on page 37.


 * Quick is entirely alphabetical; Cooke and Cobb are map books and you have to trace the page numbers yourself.


 * Plant isn't my reference, I only corrected the title. But it's just a web page. The trouble with web pages is that the owner could take it down tomorrow and we have a dead link.


 * And Reed? Well, as I implied before, that has been there for several years and you haven't objected; I hope you will hunt the perpetrator down now.


 * Best wishes. Afterbrunel (talk) 14:02, 3 August 2017 (UTC)