Talk:Soviet submarine K-278 Komsomolets

Surfaced?
'submarine surfaced, where the hull split under internal pressure.'
 * is surfaced the correct word here? sank sounds like the context but I don't know the story...--dgd

yes, it has surfaced but sunk afterwards having left most of the crew in the cold waters

Move to Soviet submarine K-278 Komsomolets

 * Rename page to Soviet submarine K-278 Komsomolets

Support

 * 1) Note that I didn't propose this. However it does seems logical given the contents of the Russian Navy Submarines and Soviet Navy Submarines categories. Support. Megapixie 06:54, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support - I nominated this, sorry about forgetting this step. 132.205.3.20 19:19, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Comments
To me all the "Russian/Soviet submarine..." article titles seem overly disambiguated. I'd suggest something more like Komsomolets (K-278). It's simpler and more consistent with other navy's submarine articles. Niteowlneils 22:53, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Dragons flight 06:23, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

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Lost paragraph
This edit with Edit Summary "copyedit" deleted the paragraph describing the damages to the hull detected 1992 and earlier. Why, if intentional? --Rainald62 (talk) 19:44, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

How many actually died?
There seems to be a fair amount of confusion on the internet over how many people died, how many survived, and how many died subsequently on the rescue ship.

- https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?115318 The ship Aleksandr Khlobystsov arrived and took aboard 25 survivors and 5 fatalities. In total, 42 men died in the accident (Site lists number of casualties as 47)

- https://english.pravda.ru/russia/124221-memory_komsomolets/ 42 people were killed, 27 were rescued

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2322&v=rHYeE6YpyhM&feature=youtu.be Of the 69 crew, 30 are rescued, 3 die before they get medical attention

- https://barentsobserver.com/en/node/19353 25 of the 67 crew members from Komsomolets survived.

- https://www.npr.org/2019/07/11/740691307/norway-surveys-sunken-soviet-submarine Of the 69 crew, only 27 survived the incident, and the submarine sank to the ocean floor in the Norwegian Sea.

- https://nonproliferation.org/komsomolets-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen/ Twenty-nine men were rescued alive, but two of them later died from shock. Of the forty-two casualties, only four were reported to have died from the fire and subsequent explosions; the rest drowned or died from immersion in the icy water while awaiting help.

Can someone sort this out? - 92.236.89.138 (talk) 11:13, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

5-yrs tagged for reference
Removed this. If sources found, re-add. Tagged in 2016. --> "Because of the loss of life, a public enquiry was conducted and, as a result, many formerly classified details were revealed by the Soviet news media.[not verified in body]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.51.247 (talk) 11:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Ship pronouns
According to WP:SHIPPRONOUN, "each article should be internally consistent and employ one or the other exclusively." The Chicago Manual of Style (16th edition), as well as the style books of the Associated Press and the New York Times, recommend using "it" or "its" to refer to ships. Before your edits, first pronominal reference to the ship in the article was "its NATO reporting name of 'Mike'-class," using "it" rather than "she". I am improving the article's consistency. Without catering to your tradition-based preference. Talib1101 (talk) 09:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)