Talk:Spades (suit)

Meanings in other languages
I think the section Spades (suit) is a largely irrelevant list. This is not a dictionnary. A short statement of the fact that the name of the suit in most langauges have such and such meanings, with notable examples and exceptions, would be better. Likewise for the other suits In fact, this info might be better summarized in Suit (cards), with a suitable link from each suit.--Noe (talk) 12:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hearts (suit)
 * Diamonds (suit)
 * Clubs (suit)

Conflict
The line:

"It is often stated that the suit is named after Spanish espada (sword), but this is not likely. In Germany and Scandinavia, Spanish playing cards were not in use, and Spanish loanwords in these languages were rare. It should also be noted that the Spanish name for the French suit is picas - not espadas."

(5th part of the opener)

conflicts with this line in Suit (cards):

"The Italian-style suits are the original suits (which is why the English term 'spade' refers not to the tool, but is derived from the Italian word espada = "sword", which this suit represents)"

(#1 of the second set of bullets in the "Traditional Eastern suits and decks" section)

Neither one is cited.

Anyone have a source, can correct this conflict, know the answer" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.34.219 (talk) 06:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Inconsistent importance
This seems odd since, as I recall in bridge, their "order of importance" in auctions was clubs, diamonds, hearts, spades.
 * Talk:Clubs (suit) says "This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale"
 * Talk:Hearts (suit) says "This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale"
 * Talk:Diamonds (suit) says "This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale"

I'll leave it up to an expert to decide the importance of spades. wbm1058 (talk) 11:25, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing that out; I've reclassified them all as mid-importance. Suit orders within card games vary e.g. in Skat and most central European games it's Clubs, Spades, Hearts and Diamonds. But "importance" here is within the overall subject of board and table games and I reckon card suits are significant enough to raise above the minimum level. Bermicourt (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)