Talk:Spanish literature/Archive 1

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I'm now learning for my final exam from Spanish literature, so I'll try to sumarize some information on some of the topics I'm studying. Because there is currently no list of Spanish literature, I'm adding the links to these pages here. Anyone is highly encouraged to explore the listed topics more, add and correct infomation.

It'd be wonderful if someone more knowledgeable than me could fill this overview page with some nice article.

Definition of scope
Spanish meaning "of Spain" or Spanish meaning "Spanish language"? If the former, remove the link to the LatAm boom; if the latter, there's loads more articles we could link to, but it'd need some sort of (by country?) structuring. –Hajor 19:29, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * I think the most reasonable is to think of it as "Spanish language" literature, since it really is one culture and there are links inside it. However, I have never meant this page to be just a list of authors and geners. Instead, I was writing a few articles and I thought it would be nice to have an overview of what's available here on the Wiki. I think the goal now is to make this page into a full article talking about Spanish language literature from the beginning in Spain and then about the split between Spanish and Latin american literature. Before somebody jumps into this, I think it's good to collect links to other Wikipedia articles and try to sort them according to the period and the literary current, so that the one who finally writes an overview has a simpler task. But the final goal really should be an article, not a list, I think. (I don't think structuring by country is a good idea, I think structuring by time and geners -- the literary developement -- would be much better for the ultimate task of making some overview article.)

--hhanke 22:45, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think the bg: link isn't appropriate, as there the literature of Spain is meant. Andres 16:28, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think this page could probably use some cleanup, or a project of some sort; also, where might information on the Golden Age of Spanish literature go? I recently added stubs for Lope de Rueda and Felix Lope de Vega. [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless | (Methyl Remiss)]] 08:53, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Such information should go to the Siglo de Oro article, since this is the Spanish term for what you call the Golden Age of Spanish literature (two centuries, actually ;). --hhanke 22:45, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"The Spaniards are particularly averse to borrowing from the intellectual treasures of other nations. They glean the field of their own muses to the very last ear, and then commence the same labour over again."
 * What does this mean? Is this POV? I have never heard such a thing before but I am not an expert in Spanish literature.

I would split the article into "Spanish literature" and "literature in Spanish-speaking countries" or something along those lines.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literatura_espa%C3%B1ola

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literatura_en_espa%C3%B1ol

That is the way I have been taught literature at school.


 * I am a Spanish education major and have taken courses on the literature of Spain, which I agree is what is meant by Spanish literature. Literature from Spanish-speaking countries should surely be its own page. I will attempt sectionalizing the authors that are on the page according to the history of Spain and as a Spanish speaker, I will look at the great format of some of the pages in Spanish on this topic. Please comment on what you see.Troy385 22:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

As per this line at the top of the article "within the territory that presently constitutes the state of Spain" the reference to Ruben Darío in the Modernist section must be removed as Dario is from Nicaragua which is not Spain. There is a proper reference to Dario in the Latin America Literature page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mauvarca (talk • contribs) 18:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Reducing list of works of Lorca
There's no need of giving here such long listing of Federico García Lorca's works, I think it's just enough with the most important ones. If somebody wants to know the full list, they can get it in the article dedicated to Federico García Lorca. So I'm reducing the list of works of Lorca to the most relevant ones. --Anna Lincoln 09:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Introductory sentence
I have changed the introductory sentence from Under Spanish literature we can think of the literature of Spain but Spanish literature may also refer to literature written in the Spanish language. → The term Spanish literature refers to literature written in the Spanish language, including literature composed in Spanish by writers not necessarily from Spain. It sounded somewhat unencylopaedic in tone and was a bit ambigous. I have used the same approach as English Literature Chris Buttigiegtalk 18:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

The Jarchas?
Would somebody explain to me why the kharjas (as it's their name in English) are included as Early Spanish literature if they were not written in Spanish? --Purplefire 04:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. I have rewritten the section and referenced it. -- Asterion talk 18:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice work. -- FayssalF  - Wiki me up®  22:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Expert revision needed
This article is in fairly urgent need of extensive rewriting. On the one hand, it suffers obvious problems in syntax, vocabulary and style. (It was clearly not written by a native speaker of English; there are numerous examples of literal translations and false cognates from Spanish.) More importantly, however, the entry reflects an unsophisticated understanding of the history of literature, Spain, and Spanish literature, as if it were a rehashing of an instituto-level (i.e. high school) literature course, with its corresponding misconceptions, clichés and errors. In its current state it is not a reliable source of information. Anyone at WikiProject Spain interested? It's a big task! Moises de la vera 00:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Cervantes
I think Cervantes should not be mentioned in the Baroque period, but in the Renaissance, or even have an own section; for his style is unique, or at least, can be considered a transition between Renaissance and Baroque, with many points in common with the Manierism

English translation
This article looks like it was translated from Spanish and needs some work. For instance, the definite article is still before many nouns that shouldn't have it. For example, the article says, "in the Romanticism," when it should say, "in Romanticism." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.31.60.70 (talk) 18:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

magical realism
the article doesn't even mention it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.160.178 (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course not. This article refers to the Spanish language literature of Spain. It includes Spanish poetry, prose and novels. Magical realism is american. For Spanish American literature specifically, see Latin American literature. --Infinauta (talk) 21:38, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Renaming
I left a hint in the header of Category:Spanish literature, but it's frustrating that there is no overview of literature in the Spanish language: surly there have been mutual influences. In addition it seems that Spanish literature is usually so understood, to judge by Spanish-language literature having been made a redirect. In the Commons there are two categories, Literature of Spain and Spanish-language literature, both of which are unambiguous. I see that a paragraph about Rubén Darío has been deleted in spite of his transatlantic career. If there is to be an article that purges mention of non-Spanish authors and includes Arabic and Ladino poetry, then I think a choice should be made between Literature(s) of Spain and Iberian Literature. Sparafucil (talk) 20:51, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Suspect typo
from Correct typos in one click paens->pains? context: isco Franco's reactionary vision of a second Spanish golden age than to the material and existential anguish facing the majority of the country's population of the time. Neo-baroque poetry and paens paens to Franco's Spain satisfied the censors but has enjoyed no subsequent critical shelf-life.Ironically, the narrative production of one of Franco's censors would provide the first sign of literary rev