Talk:Sparks Fly (song)/Archive 1

The different version
Because it is background to the song it should be included. Swift did infact perform the song prior to it's release on Speak Now with different lyrics. It's relevant and I use a reference.

Sparks Fly is the fifth single
She is an American artist which means we are suppose to go by US standards. "Mean" and "The Story of Us" were not released as a dual-single in the US. Mean was released first as the third single then it's music video. A month later "The Story of Us" was released as the fourth single and then it's music video was released on May 25th. "The Story of Us" was released as the third single in the UK only "Mean" was not released at all. Also where is the reference for the dual single? I do not see where this makes the count right but if "Mean" was released first then "The Story of Us" then their correct count would be 3 and 4. I'm just wanting to point this out cause I don't see how it makes sense to call them a dual-single when they were not released at the same time. So "Mean" is the third single, "The Story of Us" is the fourth and "Sparks Fly" is the fifth single. I even added a reference on the Speak Now page from NYDailyNews.com claiming that "The Story of Us" is Swift's fourth single. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 01:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Chart performance
Can we get some references for the Australian Singles Chart and the Canadian Hot 100 please? JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 10:36, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Please read the talk page for Speak Now about the information on "Mean" and "The Story of Us" JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 13:57, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Genre
To: LinkChou, Ending-start, and Ipodnano05‎.

I think the 3 of us need to talk and agree upon what the genre needs to be as we are the four main people who contribute to this article. Also if I've been a butt. Sorry. I'm not meaning to be. I feel it's a pop song more then a country song LinkChou has also expressed that it's a pop song with some country elements. Any other opinions on this matter? JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 11:29, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Amazon.com considers it Country /General (What the heck is general genre?) SOURCE: http://www.amazon.com/Sparks-Fly/dp/B0048IMZTE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1311271525&sr=1-1 JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 18:07, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit: Never mind it's just Country looked at it and it's only specified as country Lol! OOPS! JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 18:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Canadian Hot 100
To: JamesAlan1986

Hey. I have just found the source that SF debuted at #28. Can i edit SF's page ???

http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/canadian-hot-100?chartDate=2010-11-13&order=gainer --LinkChou (talk) 14:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey as long it's gotta reference go ahead. It looks legit to me. Now the only one that hasn't been account for is the Australian one. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 14:21, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Has anyone noticed?
Has anyone noticed that when the semi-lock goes off the IP users start attacking this all over again and vandalizing it? I seriously think that there should be a permanent lock on this. Anyone who supports or opposes this please respond to this. JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 15:00, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just went ahead and requested it. ℥nding · start 15:29, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's hard to receive a permanent protection. The best you can do is request for semi protection immediately after it expires. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 17:19, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

The article
Keefe says this:

"What makes “Sparks Fly” a standout is that it is, in a lot of ways, the purest iteration of Swift’s template and repertoire. Producer Nathan Chapman grounds the single in a punchy, not-at-all-country pop-rock sheen and ensures that all of its key lines and phrases are pitched for maximum impact."

He doesn't call it pop rock at all he calls it a pop song as he says here:

"Compared to the cultural juggernaut that was Fearless, Taylor Swift’s Speak Now has underperformed at both retail and radio. The set’s fifth single, “Sparks Fly,” could turn things around for Swift, as it’s perhaps the most perfectly constructed single in a career built on tracks that are marvels of pop production and songwriting."

I had it right the first time. JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 17:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I know the wording is horrible, but it says that her career is built on tracks that are "marvels of pop production and songwriting". He says that the song is "not-at-all-country" pop-rock. ℥nding · start 17:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't know ending it doesn't seem right to call it a pop production first then a pop rock song. When I read it it's saying (to me) that Nathan Chapman didn't put it as a country pop rock sound, but that he nailed it just right for a great impact. Maybe we should get a third opinion that's not at all from an IP user. LOL! JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 17:15, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a bit complicated because of the author's wording. Try and find another, more concrete source. Use this for critical reception. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 17:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you there Ipodnana05, it is very confusing. Ending if you're around what you think? JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 17:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think that's best. We're getting two views from what it says, so. xD ℥nding · start 17:30, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Well this discussion is closed then. LOL! JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 17:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Another conflict here.
Okay I didn't want to point this out but Keefe called it the fifth single and Bobby Peacock called it the fourth single. Which should we go by? JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 17:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what the critics call it. It was released as the fifth single because four other singles were released before it. If anything, say it's the fourth to impact country radio. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 17:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't that be fixed on both "The Story of Us (song)" and Speak Now pages? JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 18:00, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't really matter. Four singles were released before this one, thus making this one the fifth. ℥nding · start 18:34, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I called it "fourth single" in my review because it's her fourth single for country radio, and Roughstock only covers country. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Music video
Hi everyone, I was just wondering if I or someone else could add the section "External link" and put in it the youtube link as it often appears on song pages but maybe not on Taylor's... What do you think about it ;) ? Sofffie7 (talk) 21:13, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually I checked the pages and it does appear quite a lot. In overall it doesn't on the songs of the new album -plus the promotional songs and maybe two singles from the first album so I think it would do no harm to put them :) Sofffie7 (talk) 21:30, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

It sounds found to me. I don't see how it'll hurt the page at all. We're trying to get it as a GA and adding a lot of what we can find right now cause it's not easy working on this thing. JamesAlan1986 (talk-contribs) 11:33, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Xmaganzx, 8 September 2011
The video for Sparks Fly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKar-tF__ac at times 3:17 and 3:36 show the actual name "Gillette Stadium" in Foxboro,MA which must be where the rain footage is from because the Saturday June 25th concert downpoured and Taylor made a huge deal about it. I know, I went to the Saturday AND Sunday shows at Gillette this year!

Xmaganzx (talk) 15:42, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source other then your word? Cause we can't post it without a reliable source. JamesAlan1986 *talk 13:48, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I also want to add sorry I just checked it out that the sign is actually incoherent meaning that we don't see the full sign so the video holds no reference to it actually being there. JamesAlan1986 *talk 04:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Tom Schoffelen, 29 October 2011
Please add a link at the beginning of the page to the page Sparks Fly (album) of Miranda Cosgrove.

Tschoffelen (talk) 12:33, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Since the only way to get to this article is by actually having (song) after the title I do not think this is necessary. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 14:39, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

13
Anyone know why she has the number 13 painted on her hand? -- AnonMoos (talk) 07:36, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a forum. If you think that's the reason she does it is good enough to be posted on Swift's main article page I'd bring it up there wait on a consensus and then you'll probably get your answer. Swifty</b>* <sup style="margin-left:0.37ex; color:darkblue;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex; color:darkblue;">contribs 03:58, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Live performance pic
Should this be in the "Music Video" section or the "Live performance" section. I'm thinking it should be in the "Live performance" section but I'm going to see what others opinions are. <b style="font-family:Arial; color:red;">Swifty</b>*<sup style="font-family:Arial; color:darkred; margin-left:0.37ex;">talk 00:34, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The way it's formatted on my screen, it's kind of in both already, so I don't think it makes much difference. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)