Talk:Special Group (India)

Please clarify
Vaibhavafro, please clarify this - 40 Kilometres per hour - you can't be serious no matter what the cite says. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:55, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, Usain Bolt can run at 45 kmph. There are many people who can run faster than that. It should not be surprising if those ultra-elite guys can touch 40 kmph. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 07:06, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You mentioned that they can jog at this speed.... top speed and jogging are very different. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The cite says this. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 07:10, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Vaibhavafro, one cite and that too India Today. Get something to back this up. What is the normal speed for elite soldiers around the world. What about other SFs in India?... Otherwise I think you should remove this claim. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 07:13, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

What do mean by "that too India Today"? India Today is a reliable, well published source and you have NO locus-standii to question it. It is a fact that African Tribes can run after deers, Jogging for hours till the deer gets tired before capturing it. So why are you so surprised? One has to first become a Para Commando, then a Para SF and then he gets to try the SG. I am sure this top-jogging-speed will be true for other ultra-elite special forces around the world, like the CIA's Special Activities Division. Please don't be so surprised, that fact is perfectly credible. Regards, &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 07:31, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

I have replaced "jog" with "run". This should satisfy you and there should not be more discussion. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 08:03, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Vaibhavafro, But the article doesnt use the word run does it... I think we have a WP:COI here. I am not surprised at the speed but it is rather laughable. In the same article the author uses the word march at one place and jog at another. I also comapred this with the average speed for 100m sprint and marathons (records). Everythings points to something being wrong here. If 40 isn't wrong, then the words march and jog. Please don't make this a lauging matter. Good job on the article. Regards.DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 08:06, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Vaibhavafro, if you are not going to listen to my rational, you ping some editor and lets see what they say. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 08:20, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Since Yoninah is already part of the DYK, i tagged them for thier view over at the DYK temp. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 08:24, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * What nonsense! What makes you think there is a WP:COI here? If you are not satisfied with "run" either, let me restore it to what EXACTLY the cite says. You are ridiculing yourself by saying that what civilians can do is the best. Civilian records don't matter here. And what is this march-jog drama now? The author clearly says that the SG are capable of jogging at 40 Kmph. Even if it is for 10 minutes, it will still be jogging. He doesn't even use the word "march". Dont make things up. Best regards, &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 08:28, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Ok let's see what others have to say. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 08:29, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You removed the template again without letting this discussion finish! You haven't provided enough rationale. Where are your military records then? Or are you just assuming? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 08:44, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I not only removed the template but also reverted my "jog"--->"run" transition, which was ther reason cited. What rational do you exactly need? Please specify. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 08:53, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

I have already given enough clarification. Still you are resorting to making things up, like you made up that "march-jog" claim. Please wait for someone else to comment. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 09:06, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

WP:SYNTH of your personal opinions and some data cannot be used to challenge a WP:RS. You will need a SOLID source which says that humans can't jog at 40 Kmph even for a few minutes to challenge this. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 09:27, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

, The Journal of Applied Psychology says that humans can reach a maximum speed of 40 mph (~64 Kmph). I am pretty convinced now that SG guys can jog at 40 Kmph for a short amount of time. Best regards, &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 12:37, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, saw myself pinged here. I also think that 40 kph figure is unbelievable for "jogging". That's the speed of a car going down a residential street! Surely the source made an error. I think you should support it with one other source, or delete it. Yoninah (talk) 23:39, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

✅. Deleted. However, I still think that the 40 kmph content is not outlandish. I will resurrect it again if I find sources which support the content. (Pinging ) Regards, &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 00:46, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Please forgive me for WP:SHOUTING because I was not aware of this policy back then. Since this discussion is old and it has been resolved, I am closing it. &#8212;&#x202F; Vaibhavafro &#x202F;&#128172; 07:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)