Talk:Speech disorder

Attn
Attn: The Anome: The text "only 10% are completely normal" was earlier removed. However, that is just the point. Looking at all parameters (voice roughness, vocal cord function, nasality, distinction between phonemes, level of stuttering and whatever) separetely, we find that very few voices are normal by all parameters. And by normal, I mean no significant deviation from average. But it is rare that all the parameters are within the normal range. --User:Tbackstr

Whoever is vandalising this article by associating it with stupidity, please stop. People with speech disorders are not necessarily idiots. As a person with a speech impediment, I am offended. --Der Sporkmeister 18:06, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I haven't seen the edits in question, but if they're inserting the word 'dumb' to describe a person who is mute, that is a valid (though archaic and not much used today) use of the word.. granted, most don't use it today due to the fact that it's insensitive because of its other connotations. teh TK 16:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Defining a Speech Disorder
Some edits and their rationales...

1. Voice disorders / dysphonia is an issue of the voice i.e. the larynx, voicebox, what have you, and I have removed the reference to dysphonia. I think of speech disorders as generally issues of control and movement of the articulators.

2. Removed prevalence statistics or assertions re: stuttering. Unless we have a reference, I think this should be omitted. Also note that developmental stuttering occurs in many more than 7% of the population - I assume the author is driving at the notion of pervasive childhood-adolescent-adult stuttering??

I want to edit some more, as this page is confusing. What do others think of these edits?

--Frogamigo 15:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Usually, the term "speech disorder" defines a large category containing many things that involve speech production. Control of articulars is either an articulations disorder (a kind of speech sound disorder) or a motor speech disorder like disarthria.  (By the above standards, stuttering should also have been removed.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.107.165 (talk) 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

While learning new languages
Are there artificially produced speech impediments that come along with the process of learning a new language? My gut indicates so. I'm asking to confirm. --Shultz 05:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I've never heard of somebody developing a speech impediment while learning a new language. What makes you think it could happen?  --Der Sporkmeister 11:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Because when someone develops a habit of pronouncing words incorrectly consistently when speaking a new language, wouldn't that be considered a speech impediment? --Shultz 22:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I would think it depends on why they mispronounce words. If it is because they have difficulty making certain sounds, it'd be a speech impediment.  I don't think it counts if the mispronounciation is a result of simply not knowing how words are to be pronounced. --Der Sporkmeister 23:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

If you've heard a foreigner pronounce strings of words incorrectly, despite him/her having heard of those words before, that would be considered a speech impediment then, wouldn't it? --Shultz 09:15, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Having a foreign accent is not considered a speech impediment, no. Angr (talk • contribs) 09:04, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Source?
''Sometimes the speech impediment can affect the way the brain functions, but only in very rare situations. One such case is that of a young teen from Bedford, NH, Michael Demmons. Within a matter of minutes, the disorder had reached his brain. Michaels' IQ dropped about from 100 to about 47.''

Can somebody provide a source for this information? --Der Sporkmeister 02:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * This is almost certainly some kids playing around. I've reverted. --Arcadian 03:49, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Helen Keller
I removed Helen Keller from list because Helen was mute. Although this is a speech impediment of sorts, I think the list focuses on people who could actually speak, but stuttered or had lisps, etc. Sifaka 22:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

mute refers to this site, but almost none of the aspects of mutism is included in here. this page is practically a stub.

Treatment
Though this isn't a treatment (more of a workaround), shouldn't those little devices you can hold to your throat to substitute for your vocal chords be included? I don't even know what they're called, but they're small enough to be held in the palm of your hand and make a monotone electronic buzzing sound. teh TK 16:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think you are referring to an artificial larynx or an electrolarynx (same thing). They are for treatment of aphonia. I don't think this should be included, as aphonia is not - in my mind anyway - a speech disorder.
 * --Frogamigo 15:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Question
Is there a name for the annoying way that some people speak, when they leave an 'anti-interruption carrier wave' running in between words? I can think of (in particular) a British morning TV presenter who talks-err like this all-errr the time-errr, leaving no gaps in-between-errr the words-errr. Does this have a name?160.84.253.241 07:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

R's for L's
Example; He didn't go to Albany....He went to Arbany,where he did not get into trouble,but into trouber when not his bubble was busted, but when his bubber was busted!!!!! And on and on he goes,not singing jingle bells,jingle bells; but singing jinger bears,jinger bears!

I am curious about this impediment and wonder if it has a name? A cause? A cure? Sincerly, Tom Webster —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.68.248.35 (talk) 18:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Famous people (!) with speech impediments

 * Donald Duck, Disney cartoon character.
 * Porky Pig, Looney Tunes cartoon character — stutter
 * Daffy Duck, Looney Tunes cartoon character — lisp
 * Tweety Bird, Looney Tunes Academy Award winning cartoon character — speech impediment
 * Sylvester, Looney Tunes Academy Award winning cartoon character — lisp

Are you serious? &lt;K F&gt;  21:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed that a lot of the people listed in the Famous People section have no source or citation. It isn't even listed in a majority of the "famous people"'s individual wiki entries that they even had a speech impediment. Where did this list come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.108.163 (talk) 08:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Rudy Giuliani
Is Guiliani's lisp significant enough to be added to the list of people with speech impediments? --68.149.181.145 02:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If you find somewhere that documents that he has a lisp, or that quotes him talking about his lisp, then you should put it up, with a reference. Fredsmith2 21:55, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

move list
the list seems to detract from the rest of the page; it looks like filler to me. Saganatsu (talk) 23:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. The page should just be about speech disorder, not famous people with them. --Jh12 (talk) 10:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I also agree, and the list really isn't encyclopedic anyway. I say REmove the list.129.15.131.246 (talk) 16:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Speech versus Language
Speech disorders and language disorders are not the same thing. Language disorders (e.g., specific language disorder, aphasia) deal with processing language (syntax / grammar, meaning / semantics, etc.). Speech disorders (e.g., stuttering, speech sound disorders, voice disorders) involve the difficulting with producing speech. Simply put, language disorders should be on a speparate page and not redirect here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.107.165 (talk) 04:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A separate page for language disorders
Last night I created a page for language disorders, which are distinct from speech disorders. However, over the night someonne deleted that page and set it to redirect here, which is not an appropriate redirect as speech disorders and language disorders two different things -- and who ever did it also left a double redirect (language disorders -> language disorder -> speech disorder). I don't know if this was done by an uninformed administrator or and ordinary user who was invested in this page, but,fFrankly, I see this deletion and redirect as vanadlism. --69.254.107.165 (talk) 15:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Famous people with speech impediments
This section was split off into another article and deleted. I think only a few notable, sourced examples (perhaps a few per type of occupation) should be converted into prose, and then moved back into the article. If adding anyone, cite a reliable source. 4Russeteer (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Boris Karloff, lisp
 * Humphrey Bogart, lisp
 * Nicholas Brendon, actor — stutter
 * Isaac Brock (musician), lead singer of Modest Mouse. — lisp
 * Win Butler, lead singer of Arcade Fire. — lisp
 * Truman Capote, lisp
 * Winston Churchill, British Prime Minister — lisp, cluttering, or stutter
 * Claudius, Roman Emperor — stutter
 * Alcibiades, lisp
 * Camille Desmoulins, journalist in the French Revolution; stutter
 * Drag-on, rapper — stutter
 * Gareth Gates, singer — formerly stutter
 * Roy Jenkins, British politician — rhotacism
 * Stephan Jenkins, singer/songwriter/musician (Third Eye Blind) — rhotacism
 * Elton John, singer/songwriter, lisp
 * Scatman John, scat singer — stutter
 * James Earl Jones, actor — stutter
 * Jim Jones, cult leader — lisp
 * Boris Karloff, actor — lisp
 * Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., environmental activist — spasmodic dysphonia
 * Anthony Kiedis, singer (Red Hot Chili Peppers) — lisp
 * Anybody Killa, rapper — lisp
 * Steven Levitt, economist and author of Freakonomics; lisp
 * Bob Love, former NBA player — stutter
 * Shane MacGowan, singer (The Pogues) — rhotacism
 * Keith and The Girl, podcaster — unknown
 * Marilyn Monroe, actress — stutter
 * Frank Muir, British comedy writer and personality on radio and television — rhotacism
 * Kele Okereke, lead singer of band Bloc Party; rhotacism
 * Mark Owen, singer in band Take That. -stutter
 * Rick Parfitt, Status Quo rhythm guitarist and singer
 * Diane Rehm, radio talk show host — spasmodic dysphonia
 * Jonathan Ross, British television personality — rhotacism
 * David Sedaris, author — lisp during childhood
 * Shannon Sharpe, NFL color commentator and ex-pro football player; lisp, stutter & drawl
 * James Stewart, actor — stutter
 * Joe Strummer, singer (The Clash) — rhotacism
 * Richard Thompson, guitarist and singer-songwriter — stutter
 * Mel Tillis, country music singer — stutter
 * Barbara Walters, television personality — rhotacism and lisp
 * Bruce Willis, actor and director — stutter
 * Tiger Woods, golfer — stutter
 * Will Young, singer — lisp
 * Ben Wallace, NBA player — stutter
 * RZA, Rapper — Stutter
 * Busta Rhymes, Rapper — Stutter
 * Dusty Rhodes (wrestler), lisp
 * Matthew Bellamy, lead singer of band Muse, rhotacism
 * Kool G Rap, Rap Artist — Lisp
 * Mike Tyson, Boxer — Lisp
 * Ron Harper, Former NBA Basketball Player — Stutter
 * Tom Klimczyk, comedian — Stutter
 * Michael Phelps, swimmer - lisp
 * Morrissey, musician The Smiths - lisp

Which?-tag
Nyttend, please do not remove the which?-tag without putting in what population it refers to. You claim that "it's obviously meant to be everyone entirely." And how do you know that? If you have a source saying this for the world's population, then put it in. I'll bet you don't, because it's unlikely that anyone has done a world-wide study. So maybe the editor who put it in meant all English speakers, and maybe he/she meant all Indo-European speakers, and maybe all Americans, and maybe all American English speakers.

Again, please leave the tag alone unless you answer it on the page and are not just guessing what the editor meant. Duoduoduo (talk) 20:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)