Talk:Speed Racer

Legs
Legs that seem 6 feet long? I'm removing it as it doesn't make sense, putting her taller than a large portion of the population. Hackwrench 03:14, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Techno
Someone should add a bit about Speed Racer clips being used in techno.

Quentin?
"As a proper name, Go is the equivalent of the English name Quentin." - does that mean that Quentin is his real name in the English version and "Speed" is his nickname? -HKMARKS 02:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

RESPONSE: I believe it actually refers to the fact that GO means five in Japanese, and Quentin is a name that derives from a word meaning five. -Clovis15 10:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I believed one of the American comics actually claimed that his real name is "Greg", but I'm not sure if its canon. Jonny2x4 (talk) 05:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Info about the circumstances of the English dubbed version
It would be good to see further incorporation of some of the material available online as to the circumstances of the show's English-language versions, though the article shouldn't turn into a fan site type of thing... it could be nonetheless valuable to have a little about the tiny amount Fernandez and the others were paid (and the fact that one of the actors was actually sharing the salary of another), how Fernandez arrived at his versions, the fact that (if I recall correctly) they didn't get royalties, etc. It would take me a while to collect all this and properly edit it, so if someone else can do it on the fly, that would be a useful addition. Lawikitejana 09:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * To Whom It May Concern:
 * Personally, I remember seeing the American version of Speed Racer a LOT sooner than cited in this entry. I can swear to it being on television at least back when I was in the fifth grade, if not earlier.
 * That would put its original Trans-Lux syndication airdate circa 1972-1973 instead of the 1981-1982 cited in the openning paragraph of the entry, unless the author meant something else by that specific 1981-1982 reference.
 * Also (if it matters) the NOW Comics adaptation at one point said that the G on Speed Racer's shirt was actually a monogram for his "true" first name: Greg. Should I make the necessary changes myself, or would you like to varify them first?
 * Sincerely,
 * Lee Houston, Junior (talk) 17:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * To the poster who said "That would put its original Trans-Lux syndication airdate circa 1972-1973 instead of the 1981-1982" You are correct. I am almost 36 years old and Speed Racer was on way before 1981.--70.149.147.210 (talk) 02:40, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, nearly four years later we still haven't got the background info on the English version, or even the names of the other voice actors. Guess it's time for me to start trying to write something workable about it.Lawikitejana (talk) 22:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Legacy and Cultural Reference
Doesn't Cyber Formula awfully remind you of Mach GoGo? To me, it's the actually spiritual successor of the series.Suredeath 03:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Added GEICO Ad reference ClintEarly 21:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Live action film
Could somebody add a section on the upcoming film? I found this reference: PureLegend 16:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

pronunciation
How do you pronounce マッハ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.147.43.82 (talk • contribs).
 * "Makha"... it is actually to say it, because I am a spanish native trying to pronounce a japanese word for an english user :-) -- ReyBrujo 03:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's actually "mah'ha". Tony Myers 02:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Production replica cars
Some time between 1998 and 2000 an auto production company built a sport car that looked exactly like the Mach 5 and sold a few thousand of them for about US$51,000. Does anyone have a link to their site (assuming that the company still exists)? I think I might have saved a few of their promo photos, but uploading them may incur copyright problems. — Loadmaster 01:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Found some info at http://www.sussexcountyonline.com, circa 2000, about the now-defunct www.MyMach5.com:
 * One of the more unusual vehicles at the San Diego International Auto Show was the Mach 5 Speed Racer, a limited-edition, Corvette-based roadster. ... The prototype sold for $180,000 at a collector-car auction in August and will go on permanent exhibit at the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles. ... The road-ready Mach 5 sells for $72,000, ordered at the Web site (www.mymach5.com) with a $35,000 refundable deposit. Twenty percent of the proceeds go to the Child Safety Network. One hundred Signature Series cars will be built, each signed by actor Peter Fernandez, the original voice of Speed Racer, who also wrote and directed all 52 episodes, named all the characters and wrote the theme song, "Go Speed Racer Go."
 * — Loadmaster 22:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Legacy
How about Games? Racing Games? Such as "Speed Racer in the Challenge of Racer X"???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.230.213.152 (talk) 05:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Speed Racer and Mach Go Go Go

 * As much as the "Speed Racer" adaptation has a following in its own right, I strongly feel that there should be a separate article discussing the original Japanese series. There's a large amount of information on the original that could possibly be lost or misinterpreted if all of the focus is on the redubbed version. The same can easily be said for Gigantor and Astro Boy. Tony Myers 02:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So write one. 208.245.87.2 (talk) 16:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that Mach Go Go should have its own article but does anyone have sufficient information for the Japanese version of Speed racer. There is a precedent Gatchaman & Battle of the Planets and  Saber Rider and Sei Jūshi Bismarck so why not if there is enough reliable data. Dwanyewest (talk) 03:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I dunno how much this is off use since I am unable to speak Japanese Dwanyewest (talk) 03:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Its been done so anyone wanna add to go ahead Dwanyewest (talk) 23:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that Mach a Go Go should be a seperate article as there is enough information to do a seperate article as 

Dwanyewest (talk) 01:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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some of the guns look like the walther p38 carbine from the man from U.N.C.L.E.

what about snake oiler?
i can't believe that snake oiler isn't mentioned. i thought there'd be a whole page for him, but not even a mention in the speed racer page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.228.157.137 (talk) 12:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

hay what about the band racer x?
surely the band racer x, the progressive metal band containing paul gilbert, should be mentioned withinn the legacy section as they were in fact named after the character Racer X (band)

Mach 5 Basis?
The mach-V itself seems to look a LOT like the Chaparral 2D Race Car '67 (made around the same time as the series AFAIK). There are slight differences, but it seems worthwhile to note it. {{User:Sephiroth111 | sephiroth111]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sephiroth111 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Next Generation not canon?
"Tatsunoko, the original Japanese creators of Speed Racer, are not involved with this American-produced series in any way, and is therefore not considered canon, even though it builds on the original story."

Just because the original creator isn't involved, doesn't mean the show isn't canon. Speed Racer Enterprises and Lionsgate are overseeing the story, so it COULD be. We'll never know until the show is out. Many additions were made to the Oz books after Baum died, and many of those are considered canon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.185.130 (talk) 16:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Dexter's Lab Speed Racer episode
Should the Dexter's Laboratory episode "Mock 5" and the Volkswagen GTI commercial be discussed? Angie Y. (talk) 18:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not pleasem add the infoKuro Woof 20:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

No,it shouldn't. This page for Speed Racer is way,way to long and a lot of things need to be cut. You do not have to list every single thing in the world that has to do with Speed Racer.--70.149.147.210 (talk) 02:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Triple entendre
Mach Go Go Go is more than a triple entendre. Whoever wrote the current bit seems to have been unaware that the "Mach 5" would be called "maha go go" in Japanese, and seems to have made some speculations about the title.

What's more, the section is unsourced; this leads me to believe it was OR. --Kjoonlee 15:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

More specifically, the second Go is an honorific suffix. It's used in the same way as -san or -chan, except -go is reserved for vehicles. Japanese honorifics don't translate, so they're usually either left as-is or dropped in English. The correct translation of the title is either "Mach 5-go, Go!" or simply "Mach 5, Go!" Triumshockwave (talk) 16:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not exactly an honorific. It's an ordinal suffix, so the car's name is actually "Mach Number 5". Ordinal suffixes are normally pronounced and translated into English. This translation is an unusual exception. But the name would still be read as "Mah ha go gou" by a Japanese. A similar case is the Robot Anime "Gigantor". In Japanese, it was called 鉄人２８号 and pronounced as "tetsujin niju hachi gou" (Iron Man number 28). The current information on the Japanese Mach 5 name is simply wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.225.231.10 (talk) 06:17, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I checked the Japanese name for the car and it is マッハ号 not マッハ五号. So the car name IS mahha-gō, but not as previously explained. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.225.231.10 (talk) 06:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

thing
Okay, I've noticed there is no plot summary whatsoever here. I'm not a big Speed Racer fan so someone else should put it in. I suspect there was once one and that the Wikipedia douche bags removed it to get a notch on their belt. so someone put one up Drstrangelove57 (talk) 07:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:AGF --Kjoonlee 18:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Now the plot is a summary of the first episode. You'd think an episode/miniarc format section would be better, or an overall plot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AntiangelicAngel (talk • contribs) 05:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

mistake
sorry...I put a request for deletion in error because when I viewed the article, there was vandalism. Sorry!--Startstop123 (talk) 14:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Documented animal abuse section
I believe this section belongs on the Speed Racer (film) page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_Racer_%28film%29 The section only refers to events taking place on the set of the movie, not anything unique to the cartoon show. 69.143.10.92 (talk) 14:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yikes! You're right. I thihgt that's where I was - I'll correctBob98133 (talk) 14:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

TV-Guide "most memorable moments"?
Can anyone provide a source for the claim that "The Trick Race" episode was selected by TV Guide as one of the most memorable moments in television history? This is widely quoted across the WWW (probably because it appears here on wikipedia!) but I cannot confirm it. It does NOT appear in the 2004 TV Guide/TV-Land listing of the 100 most memorable moments. Doppelbock (talk) 16:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

early 1990s techno song
What about Alpha Team's song "Go, Speed, Go"?

66.217.39.118 (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC) --Ray

Tv movie and series the same
For SR:The Next Generation, the television movie that was released on DVD, AND the series, are ONE AND THE SAME! The three-episode movie is the PILOT episode. Someone please correct this in that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.27.149.133 (talk) 22:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio problem
It seems that the intro section has been lifted from 's "about" section. The standard treatment for that kind of behaviour is reverting to a version previous to the likely copyright violation. Does anyone know when this text was added? --Alvestrand (talk) 11:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, but should it be sited, though? (the site) or do we make a new background all together? (Megamanno (talk) 16:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC))
 * The standard procedure is to roll back to a version previous to the addtion, then write the facts *in your own words*, citing the site as source of the information. But one reason why I'd like to track down the addition is that in one other case like this, it turned out that the text had been taken *from* Wikipedia *to* the other site - and this was fairly evident in the logs; the section had had many small changes over a period of months resulting in the version that the other site had used (without attribution). --Alvestrand (talk) 17:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Attn: fellow editors. I've restored the copyvio tag from 2008-05-01. Of the artasylum site's 20 odd sentence "Background" text on the history of Speed Racer, this page shows 16 similar sentences. These phrases and sentences are verbatim:
 * "... by anime pioneer Tatsuo Yoshida (1933-1977) as a Manga series in the 1960s and made the jump to TV as an anime series in 1967."
 * "The central character in the anime and manga was a young race car driver named Gō Mifune (Mifune Gō)."
 * "Yoshida selected the names and symbolism in his creation very carefully."
 * "... an homage to Japanese film star Toshiro Mifune."

These sentences are substantially mirrored with only minor differences (e.g. substitute, insert, or delete one or two words).
 * "His given name, Gō, is also a Japanese [homophone] for the number 5 (the number on his race car)."
 * "This is also represented by the [...] letter G embroidered on his [...] shirt."
 * "The English [language] rights to Mach Go Go Go were immediately acquired by American syndicator Trans-Lux. The main character Go Mifune was given the name 'Speed Racer' in the English version [and] a major editing and dubbing effort was undertaken by producer Peter Fernandez, who also voiced many of the characters, including Speed Racer himself.  Fernandez was also responsible for a retooling of the theme song's melody and its subsequent English lyrics."
 * "In an effort to squeeze the complicated plotlines into existing lip movements, the frenetic pace of the dubbing made Speed Racer famous [—and famously parodied—] for its quirky 'fast' dialogue."
 * "Speed Racer was the first truly successful anime franchise in the United States. The pivotal episode in which Racer X reveals his identity to Speed [("The Trick Race")] was selected by TV Guide as one of the most memorable moments in TV history."
 * "The title character was 'interviewed' in a humorous series of promotional ads for auto racing that ran on EPSN. The Speed Racer characters even appeared in an animated [television] commercial for the Volkswagen GTI [in 1966] . In the ad, [entitled] 'Sabotage', Speed drives a GTI to to victory after the Mach Five is disabled. The ad also incorporated the Matrix-style rotating freeze frame shot from the cartoon's [ending credits], with the GTI replacing the Mach Five in the shot."

-- Robocoder ( t|c ) 12:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going through the revision history now to see if I can sort out which came first. -- Robocoder ( t|c ) 12:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going to clear the copyvio tag based on the revision circa March 2006 predating speedracerlives.com (archive.org suggests it went live as early as April 2006, while the edits for Artasylum toys is dated June 10, and webisodes (series) are mentioned June 18.) However, it would be advisable that ArtAsylum be contacted about properly attributing Wikipedia as its source.  -- Robocoder ( t|c ) 13:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Awesome Racer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rEXAWh0Fz8 and the works —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grimmjow E6 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

List of Speed Racer characters
I think we should have a character list. As I don't know that much about Speed Racer, could someone experienced make it?  Raiku  Lucifer   Samiyaza  01:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The series isn't all that big, I think it should stay in the article. –  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 01:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Westernization of their characters' physical appearance?
The entire section that talks about how the characters seem "western" in looks seems not only filled with logic that is flawed, but perhaps even a little racists. Although many people find anime/manga characters to look "more caucasian then asian", and it's been written about and discussed a lot ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKTvFhRbBt8, http://www.matt-thorn.com/mangagaku/faceoftheother.html, http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2009-08-14 ) it's not really true, and I find no reason for it to even be mentioned here... - 68.36.239.42 (talk) 06:45, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I am Japanese and I agree. The entire section, especially the parts about "mukokuseki" is pure nonsense, the writer seems to think the word means something that it does not. I am removing the section. R koiwai (talk) 02:18, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Pop culture references
Everclear did a cover of the speed racer theme, I think this should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.112.156 (talk) 04:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Red "M" against white background on Racer X's chest?
I am surprised there is no mention in the article re. Racer X's outfit, esp. that there is a large, red M against a white background on his chest that looks to be a similar or the same style font as the red M against the white hood of the Mach 5. This is especially intriguing given that the family's name in Japanese starts w/a "M". Explanations anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantom in ca (talk • contribs) 12:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Theme song lyrics
I've removed the theme song lyrics. Their inclusion in this article is a copyright violation. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Undue emphasis
This article has a strange and undue emphasis on the English language translations of the manga, which are certainly worth a mention in the article as a whole... but at the moment, they take up most of the intro, and are discussed in depth before the original manga itself is discussed. This is placing them well out of proportion in their importance in the place of Speed Racer in English-language culture, much less the world. Could someone edit this? (I'd do it myself, but have a strong WP:COI on this, as one of the English scripters for those translations.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 16:01, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Gō Mifune Original(manga)brown eye or animation blue eye.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/Mach_GoGoGo_manga_covers.jpg Original manga version is brown. 61.214.6.197 (talk) 14:25, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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