Talk:Speed square

Advertisement
This seems like a big advertisement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.95.233.219 (talk • contribs) 07:09, April 26, 2008 (UTC)
 * Well it's a very popular tool. Notable, as it is a patented tool in wide use. You are welcome to edit this article to explain what a generic rafter square is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emana (talk • contribs) 12:26, May 12, 2008 (UTC)
 * The original intent of this article was to describe and explain the many uses of this generic tool. I am a little perplexed as to the advertisement point of view having reviewed this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.135.35.3 (talk) 14:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Image use
permission letter was emailed for this image. What am I suppose to do hire a laywer to legitimize my own sketches? This is regressing to new levels of inanity. -- Johnaldentalk 00:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Advertisement ????????
The following is a reaction to the advert tag by Mazeu. There is something missing here. The article mentions and elucidates the speed square via a historical note on Albert Swanson who invented the device and then a brief mention that Stanley makes one also. There are no links to any commercial sites. How is it that a historical note on a device automatially is concluded to be an advertisement? I fail to see any trace of objective logic in your "blatant" conclusion. I suggest that you reread the article and or go to a job site and experience the device in its uses and maybe your understanding and perhaps your premises will be more obvious to yourself. -- Johnaldentalk 03:49, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Johnalden, thank you for your heated support for this article. The user Mazeu has a history of overexerting the moderation tools available on Wikipedia. The article was not nominated for speedy deletion nor AfD, so removal of the advert tag by regular contributors will suffice. As you have already pointed out, all commercial links have been removed, the origins of the trademarks and brands have been established, and the whole article is presented in a encyclopedic manner - not for the benefit of any one corporation. Thank you for your contribution. -- Emana (Talk) 22:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

New image
Nice image Norvell IP  -- Johnaldentalk  01:42, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Primary title - trademark, common use, generic name
Speed Square is the Swanson trademarked name, but is also the name commonly used for all devices of this type. The generic name, "rafter angle square," is not so well known.

Should the main title (unredirected) be Speed square or Rafter angle square?

I vote for the generic name, even if it is not as well known, with a redirect from Speed square provided. I already did this, but the next revision reversed it, because the editor, based on his own experience, calls them speed squares and has not heard of angle rafter squares. Dovid (talk) 19:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Difference to set square
What's the difference to a set square? The article should clarify or both articles should be joined. -- JakobVoss (talk) 09:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It's different from a try square by being a completely different shape (although used by the same people for similar tasks). It's different from a set square by being used for completely different tasks (carpentry vs drawing), despite having a similar shape. It also has a flanged edge that set squares don't have, making it easy to use against the edge of squared timber (and impossible to do on flat paper).
 * Mostly though, the Speed square is used for complex angles other than right angles, by means of the calibrated scale marked on it. These are marked in terms of gradients, not even degrees, and are highly specialised for the construction of roof carpentry. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:12, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Change article to rafter square, with subsection based on Swanson's speedsquare
There are many companies which produce, manufacture and sell these devices. The only difference is that Swanson invented it.

Speed_square should point to rafter_square - not vice versa, as it currently is. Or at minimum, as an example, have a dedicated page for each such as Kleenex and facial_tissue.

Colloquially among the construction workers, all rafter squares are referred to as speed squares, or more generally, a square. Not providing any links or mention of the "generic" product range created by the Speed Square would be the same as not having a facial_tissue page, instead relying on the kleenex page to allude to the fact there are other manufacturers of this product as well.

As such, I will attempt to add more information to this page. ~AeSix 72.187.49.148 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:20, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

"Speed® Square" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Speed® Square and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 15 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. BD2412 T 05:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)