Talk:Spencer-Stirling biplane

The Herbert Spencer aircraft have been confused in the past, but more clarity is found in:


 * 1) Spencer-Stirling biplane - 1910 (not to be confused with the Spencer-Stirling monoplane from C.G. Spencer)
 * 2) Spencer biplane - 1912 - rebuild of the MacFie Empress biplane with Farman-like front and tail feathers.
 * 3) Spencer-Farman - ca 1913 - direct copy of the Farman HF.20, later taken on charge by the Admiralty as No.200, struck-off charge in mid-1915.

Hope that clears the air a bit!--Petebutt (talk) 08:39, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * So you are saying this was an article on the third machine and you have changed it to the being about the first! Perhaps it should be changed to the Spencer biplanes to include them all. MilborneOne (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Farmans refered to the machine as a "Spencer-Farman" in October 1911 so were all three also called Spencer-Farmans (I appreciate the Farman name was used to describe any pusher type biplane). MilborneOne (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Just to note that Herbert was one of the sons of C.G. Spencer (per Spencer-Stirling monoplane above) and one of a family of professional balloonists. MilborneOne (talk) 16:53, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * No, not an article on the third machine. The author had mixed info of the second and third machine into the first machine. I just made the article about ONE aircraft. Yes the Spencer-Stirling was very similar to a Farman, as were a lot of aircraft of the day! Farman did write the letter about this aircraft. Only the third machine was called Spencer-Farman as it was a direct copy of the HF.20 and not just a similar aircraft.--Petebutt (talk) 21:12, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no reason that the article could not cover all three aircraft, it would also help to dispel any confusion remaining.--Petebutt (talk) 21:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)