Talk:Spencer W. Kimball/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: Shii (talk · contribs) 19:33, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
 * No issues
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * I am concerned by the attention given to Kimball's voice in the lead; was this a significant part of his ministry, i.e., was this widely reported on throughout his career as president? Since the lead should summarize the whole article, I feel like this should be rewritten to give more weight to general impressions of Kimball with his throat problems playing a smaller role.
 * He was (and is) quite well known for his raspy voice, but I deleted the paragraph in the lead for now. At some point in the future, when this article is preparing for an FA review, something can be added back in.  I'd really like to get some audio clips of before and after his vocal cord surgery (BYU Speeches has a good collection), as very few people have heard Kimball's voice from before the surgery.   White Whirlwind  咨   18:58, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. Has an appropriate reference section:
 * Please fix the citation following the quote "had a good, warm feeling about it." Also some of the links to referenced books don't work
 * Fixed.  White Whirlwind  咨   18:55, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
 * Although some minor statements are unreferenced and conceivably could be, I don't think this should stand in the way for GA.
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * I am concerned that the books being referenced are 99% inside sources, and I see the previous nomination failed for this reason; before I go check this myself, do you have any comment on this?
 * I commented on this last round, but I'll say it again: there are, as far as I have been able to ascertain, only three proper biographies of Kimball &mdash; Kimball & Kimball (1977), Gibbons (1995), and Kimball (2005). Kimball (2005) is by far the best and most scholarly of those.  This issue is common in LDS biographical articles, and I'm not sure how to overcome it.  There are archives of some newspaper and magazine articles, but many of those (TIME's obituary of Kimball, for example) are paywalled.   White Whirlwind  咨   00:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've checked relevant sources and I agree that not only is this source unbiased, but there are not likely to be any superior sources to supplant most of its information. In fact, Kimball & Kimball 1977 is described as a neutral, non-hagiographic account in Walker, Ronald W., "the challenge and craft of mormon biography," BYU Studies 22.2 (1982): 179-192. Shii (tock) 01:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I am concerned that the books being referenced are 99% inside sources, and I see the previous nomination failed for this reason; before I go check this myself, do you have any comment on this?
 * I commented on this last round, but I'll say it again: there are, as far as I have been able to ascertain, only three proper biographies of Kimball &mdash; Kimball & Kimball (1977), Gibbons (1995), and Kimball (2005). Kimball (2005) is by far the best and most scholarly of those.  This issue is common in LDS biographical articles, and I'm not sure how to overcome it.  There are archives of some newspaper and magazine articles, but many of those (TIME's obituary of Kimball, for example) are paywalled.   White Whirlwind  咨   00:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've checked relevant sources and I agree that not only is this source unbiased, but there are not likely to be any superior sources to supplant most of its information. In fact, Kimball & Kimball 1977 is described as a neutral, non-hagiographic account in Walker, Ronald W., "the challenge and craft of mormon biography," BYU Studies 22.2 (1982): 179-192. Shii (tock) 01:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Only minor issues here.
 * Following the resolution of these minor issues, I accept this article as GA. Shii (tock) 17:15, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Only minor issues here.
 * Following the resolution of these minor issues, I accept this article as GA. Shii (tock) 17:15, 1 October 2014 (UTC)