Talk:Spider (pulp fiction character)

Stan Lee admits the influence of the Spider
In the book Origins of Marvel Comics, Stan Lee states that he took the name of the Spider for his own character, Spider-Man. However, in his recollections of the Spider, Lee conflated the character with the Phantom, as Lee remembered the Spider leaving his seal on his foes whenever he punched them. In fact, the Spider left his seal on criminals after he had slain them; the Phantom left the imprint of his skull ring on foes he hit.

23:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Enda80

Adaptations
I've heavily revised and rewritten the entry on the various Spider pulp mass-market paperback series that have been published since 1969. Several of the already-sighted Web references contain this same info. I also--to be absolutely certain of the details--double-checked my own Spider collection, since I have a complete collection of all the Spider reprints--1969 to the modern day. Those Web sources confirm my own complete collection. (I maintain a large Hero Pulp collection and also have *all* the important pulp reference books as a part of that very large collection. I carefully consulted those titles before finalizing any new addtions to this entry. I've also created a Reference section for those same titles. --Wikipedian SolarWind1.

Infoboxes
Infobox comics set and title is not an ideal infobox but it is better than the previous use of two different infobox (oone for the "superhero" and one for the magazine). The new infobox is good but it is a little too comic focussed (and it is not being used correctly in this article, although its the current best fit for the article's needs). I will look into better alternatives. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 17:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * hrm... I know there is an intent to create a "[single] character & title" 'box for the comics pages. It's be a "1/2 step" forward here. A question though... is there a project watching over the articles on pulp characters and publications or are they defaulting into other projects? - J Greb (talk) 19:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Article title
I've restored the long-stable original since the page move did not go through the Requested moves process. (My edit summary should save read that we don't make such movies without that process; I inadvertently wrote "with'.) I would note that per discussions at Talk:Green Hornet and Lone Ranger, consensuses closed by admin were against "The Green Hornet" and "The Lone Ranger", per Wikipedia naming conventions.--Tenebrae (talk) 00:50, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Spider-Man?
it would really help if some sentence or two would be added as to the relation between Spider and Spider-Man. Is there any? Even if not, every second contemporary wikipedia reader will ask this, for sure. It would be very nice if the article would be able to answer this question. --91.64.59.134 (talk) 22:04, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Amazing Heroes #186 mentions Stan Lee was reputedly "inspired" by the Spider for that's worth. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 19:24, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Pulp Novel reprints
The subject is out of my wheelhouse but this section is completely unreadable, and the long list of numbers is totally meaningless to any passing people (like me!) who only know a little of the characters. It's also a bit useless when there doesn't seem to be any kind of key so laymen know what it's all about. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 19:27, 9 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay, casting around and there are a couple of really good fansites listing this sort of thing, so I feel the whole section works better for readability of the article cut right down. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 17:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Suggested move to The Spider (pulp fiction character)
Since The Spider (magazine) exists to cover the magazine itself, I would like to move this article to a title that indicates it's about the character specifically and not the magazine, though of course it mentions the magazine. The Spider (pulp fiction character) would work. I could also go with The Spider (character) if that seems specific enough. Any objections or other ideas? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:27, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The Spider (character) would seem less clunky, but page naming standards are not something I'm that good with, sorry. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 00:30, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That works for me. If nobody else comments I'll move it in a few days. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 02:18, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I moved it to Spider (pulp fiction character), as there are too many other Spiders at Spider (disambiguation) for Spider (character) to be the right choice. However I'm now thinking I should have also added "The" to the front, as that's part of the character name.  I'll wait a bit and make that change too if there are no objections. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 11:55, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Which Bat?
The text mentions the "The Bat" is considered an influence on the The Spider, but it links to the Bat created by Johnston McCulley. However the character did appear until November 1934 according to the linked bibliography and The Spider began in October 1933. Are we sure this is the same Bat referred to? It could also be the The Bat from Mary Roberts Rinehart that had film adaptations in 1926 and 1930, or The Bat from the 1922 novel Number 87 by Eden Phillpotts? Can anyone find the cited source?--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 17:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)


 * OK, I've found the source - The Spider Eclipse Comics 1991 I hope that link works - and the reference is to "Broadway's The Bat (filmed in 1926 and 1930)". So it is the Rinehart version.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)