Talk:Spin (propaganda)/Archives/2013

Globalize tag
To read this page you'd think either that either Wikipedia editorship or the concept of spin was restricted to the UK. Angr (talk • contribs) 18:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It would be good to add examples of spin in other countries and how they address it. MrMurph101 20:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If anything it's more American-centric now than UK-centric, but it's hard to say it's truly globalized yet. I don't have the time right now, but maybe we can make this thread a collection spot for sources describing spin in other countries. I'll start with a few I have from other English-speaking countries. Please incorporate them into the article or add others below. -Thibbs (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2013 (UTC)


 * "Scots polling dearth and political spin" - News Net Scotland
 * "The Top 10 political and media failures of 2010" - ABC (Australia)

Merge?
There is a section about spin in the public relations article. Is it necessary for spin to have its own article?

Add fictional spin doctor
Tony from The hollowmen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.152.164.179 (talk) 22:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations#Spin Miles Blues (talk) 05:47, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

But the the article there is more of a sidenote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starlightcrystal (talk • contribs) 07:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

etymology
The political-jargon use of this word may originate in the 1980s, but isn't its history much older? To "spin a yarn", meaning tell a story, has been used in the sense of telling lies for centuries, and I'm sure I remember "to put a good spin on things" being used colloquially in the sense of presenting one's case well (with no element of deception) way back in the 60s - though I may be mistaken. But someone ought to check into that. The idea that it all started with the acronym doesn't ring true for me. That sounds like a folk etymology or (if it turns out to be verifiable) at least a post ex facto development. A case for "World Wide Words"? --Doric Loon 12:09, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It was also my understanding that spin was something used in billiards or snooker. To 'put spin on a ball' (aka English) was to strike the ball off center with the tip of the cue causing it to diverge from the path. To 'put English on a ball' or to 'put spin on a ball' was to use this technique.


 * I would also suggest that this may be derived from "spin bowling", a term from cricket whereby the direction of the ball is changed by the deliberate spin applied to the ball by the bowler, in an attempt to deceive the batsman (although I don't have any direct evidence that this is part of the term's origin). Guinness2702 2005-07-21T1518(BST)

I've got William Safire's "Safire's Political Dictionary". It has the definition of spin as well as an etymology. I'll put it up in a sufficiently unplagarized version. (I do know that CCR may have used the phrase in a song...)User:Orville Eastland


 * "Sufficiently unplagarized version"? It doesn't matter how you re-write it at all; if you ripped it from Safire you're still plagiarizing.--dlainhart 03:06, 18 September 2005 (UTC)


 * No it isn't. Ideas aren't copyrighted; words are.
 * Besides, if it's not too long, you should copy the text without making any changes to it. Really??  Yep.  Then you should write where you got it from.  It's called a "quotation", and it's a better solution, because it provides a reference at the same time.  :-)  — Omegatron 01:04, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

ĐʛI do not believe in such as it is abhorrent to democracy 212.85.15.84 12:42, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I have always thought that the word has different origin. My opinion was that they "spin you around" till you lose balance and sense of direction.

Peregrin Falcon (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)