Talk:Spouses of the Vice Presidents of the United States/Archive 1

I imagine there is not an official title "Second Lady"; Surely that has to be an error. --Ce garcon 12:24, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * In an earlier version of the article I wrote that it was an unofficial title and a mere honorific. I guess someone thought that was an error and changed it.  --Gerald Farinas 17:33, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I've changed the reference to "the formal title of the First Lady" to "the unofficial title of the First Lady." The wife of the President does not have an official title. I've also removed the sentence, "The title is traditionally only used during an active vice presidential term," which was sheer nonsense. This absurd title is not traditionally used at all. I can't imagine why this article has been allowed to stand in its present form. What's next? An article titled "Third Lady of the United States," listing the wives of the Speakers of the House? "Third Gentleman of the United States," referring to Paul Pelosi? Frankly, this kind of thing detracts from Wikipedia's credibility. WilliamBarrett 15:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

List Expansion
The section "Partial list of Second Ladies" in this article needs to be expanded until it is completed. --TommyBoy 03:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Cornelia Tappan Clinton
I have removed Cornelia Tappan Clinton from this list, because she died before her husband became Vice President. --TommyBoy 18:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Article Criticism
Since the use of "Second Lady" appears to be based solely on a poll conducted by Yahoo (see link cited), this article is not worth being in Wiki. "Second Lady" is incorrect and misleading, as the title does not exist, even casually or informally. Again, the term comes solely from an apparently multiple choice Yahoo poll. Either this article should be renamed or it should be deleted.Mowens35 15:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the biggest problem is that it's based on the incorrect assumption that the First Lady is always the president's wife, and has no clear plan for what to call the husband of a theoretical female Vice President. 153.42.168.174 (talk) 07:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Article Criticism
Since the use of "Second Lady" appears to be based solely on a poll conducted by Yahoo (see link cited), this article is not worth being in Wiki. "Second Lady" is incorrect and misleading, as the title does not exist, even casually or informally. As the link states, "Alas, at the very bottom of the page, we found your answer -- there is no official designation for the wife of the vice president. The answer was part of a poll asking readers to vote on a title for the position. The top choice was "The Second Lady," followed by Mrs. _____, then "Mrs. Vice President," and finally, 19% of those polled felt she did not merit an official title." Therefore, the title does not exist, either formally or informally. This article should be placed under another title (Vice-Presidential Spouses, perhaps) or deleted altogether. Mowens35 15:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I propose Conort to the Vice President of the United States, Wife of the Vice President of the United States, or Spouse of the Vice President of the United States. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ILDB (talk • contribs) 18:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

This entire page and title if redicilous; we have good consensus here, I'm moving it to Spouses of the Vice Presidents of the United States. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hawk08210 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)