Talk:Springer Hoax

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A source from Sweden by a Springer descendant through his mother's side (Lady Beate Salinus): http://www.sahlinska.se is listed under Baltsar Salinus in pdf, but it may not be of use as it is in Swedish. The article is by Olle Sahlin. The actual genealogy used by the hoaxers can be found online. Sahlin's article lists the good articles in English (eg by Baldwin Maull) which establish Springer's actual, as opposed to fantastical, descent. The Swedish Colonial Genealogical Society has verified this information, which includes a letter from Springer to his mother shortly before her death in 1693 giving the facts of his kidnapping in London, which still sits in the Swedish Royal Archives. Not on the hoaxers themselves (your point), nonetheless Sahlin's piece gives documentation from Prussian, Polish, and Swedish Court archives to Springer's actual origins--the hoax made him a "German" noble, not a Swedish one. In fact, as Sahlin and other sources make clear, his parents were senior Swedish Court officials, whose offspring were members of the nobility (in some cases), and that his father was the overseer of the Court accounts, and his mother was a "husfru", honorary lady of the bedchamber to Dowager Queen Hedwig Eleanora; his grandfather Baltsar Salinus was Queen Christiana's court surgeon, Hovkirurgen. Thus, the article on the hoax is a bit wide of the mark when it suggests that the Swedish noble connection was part of the substance of the hoax. In fact, everything before Christopher Springer's grandfather Dr. Casparus Salinus and his wife Appolonia, who emigrated to Sweden in 1613 from Ducal Prussia (he was in service to various princes as a lawyer) is a complete fabrication; the Swedish Court connection is entirely accurate. The Sahlins (as his mother's family came to be known) were very prominent in Swedish history. Bacres Bacres (talk) 04:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Possible additional sources

 * Eckman, Jeannette. Institute of Delaware History and Culture, University of Delaware, 1958, Crane Hook on the Delaware pp. 136-8
 * That looks good to me, but it doesn't support the statment, "It is notable today primarily as the result of mistaken reliance on the various fraudulent and/or erroneous Springer genealogies going back to Adam and Eve via Emperor Charlemagne." Erikeltic ( Talk ) 04:07, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool your jets, I'll get there. Had I intended it as a source for that particular section, I would have added it to the article. If it bothers you, remove it and I'll re-add it when I find a solid source. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Some more I'll be looking through:
 * D Lindmark - Paedagogica Historica, 2001, Literature for Swedish Lutherans in Colonial America, 1696-1730.
 * Eckman, Jeannette. Institute of Delaware History and Culture, University of Delaware, 1958, Crane Hook on the Delaware pp. 136-8 cf
 * New Castle, Delaware Community History and Archaeology Program
 * "The Springer Family Story", while not usable as a source itself, points to some sources.
 * Sources used in Samuel Peterson may relate.
 * Lun, Dudley C. Pennsylvania History,                 Volume 26,                   Number 1                   (January 1959)                 , 90--91, Book Reviews: Crane Hook on the Delaware, 1667-1699, by Jeannette Eckman.
 * EC Nelson - 1980, Lutherans in North America.
 * Deleted erroneous article that lead to the creation of this article: Dagobert (4th century)

For the most part, the weblinks are convenience only. The published sources are available through regular (print) sources. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)