Talk:Sri Lanka Air Force

Citation Flags
Added citation flags for a number of statements that look quite dubious. Elalan 14:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The fact that it is a major role has to be stated so by an expert in the field. I think that statements needs to be qualified.  Elalan 03:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Pal, I think the common sense is getting so uncommon nowadays. Do you think the Air Force will fly kites while civil war going on???  ♪ ♫ Ľ ą Ħ ĩ Ř ǔ _ Қ ♫ ♪  (Ŧ) 03:57, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You still haven't answered any of my questions. How is it that the airforce has a major role to play in the civil war ? You may bring up Defence ministry statements but that is not reliable on this matter. To know it plays a major roles implies it significantly affects something ?  This isn't the US airforce we are talking about here.   As it stands right know what is being mentioned is an opinion.  The airforce, by sheer size can't be argued to be significant.  So how does it have a major role to play ? How can you measure that ? This needs to be clarified at very least or its original research. Elalan 05:43, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * LOL...I think Elalan seems to have a problem with the SL army, navy and airforce. You can edit all you want in here man but the fact is that you guys still cant achieve your dream, so you can get back to ur homeland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.167.92 (talk)

Ranked Highly?
I think the comment that the Sri Lankan Airforce is quiet biased. In a fact, by technology and size it is far behind 1st World Nations. Maybe the introduction should be re-worded to disinclude this unsourced infomation?


 * Looks like a totally incompetent bunch. Huge losses, minimal successes. They don't even have a true jetfighter with an on-board radar. Kfir, MiG-27 and their chinese MiG-21F copycats only have fixed radio distance meters, which are worth next to nil in actual combat. They are repeatedly unable to shoot down the rebels' Zlin 143 elementary-trainers-converted-to-light-bombers, even though those planes barely do 250 km/h. Probably even a run-of-the-mill arab air force would rank higher in actual combat value and those guys aren't Einsteins either. 82.131.210.162 (talk) 10:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Why would Sri lanka even need a powerful air force, none of its immediate neighbours are bad. The money is better spent on education and development. Daiyusha (talk) 08:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Westland WAH-64 Apache Longbow
since when does sri lanka operate the Westland WAH-64??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.32.75 (talk) 02:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

UAV
Does Sri Linakan Airforce have any RQ-2 Pioneer...? and IAI Scouts...Scouts have all crashed...only Searcher Mk II and EMIT Blue Horizons II —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.31.110 (talk) 00:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

SLAF Crest Updation
Sri Lanka Air Force crest has been updated since 2011.

The New crest has been added to Wikipedia commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sri_Lanka_Air_Force_Crest.png



Attack aircraft fix.
The MiG-27 helicopter does not exist and should be removed. Technically one special command version and one example was built, but it does not serve outside of Russia. The MiG-24 is the export version of the MiG-23, I added the link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DSkauai (talk • contribs) 02:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

About Mig 29
SLAF don't have Mig 29! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randeepa (talk • contribs) 17:05, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

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Fighter inventory

 * FOX52 will you mind actually reading the references for the amended fighter fleet deposition. You apparently have missed multiple references from 2017:
 * 1.)A Sri Lankan newspaper which has stated all the Migs and Kfirs are out of service which,and that a one single J7BS and J7GS have been returned from China after overhaul. This is after the date of the 66th anniversary airshow.
 * 2.)The SLAF which have stated they they have overhauled two more J7 fighters in the new overhaul facility at Katunayake,after receipt of the ones from China- you can see clearly one is an FT7 as it has the same shape and the second is clearly a J7GS as it does not have a straight wing. The J7BS aircraft received in 1991 had the same wing as the Mig21. The later versions were changed to a double delta wing.
 * 3.)The Youtube video is of the Sri Lankan air force anniversary celebrations this year,and its not the only video of the fly past. There are two F7GS fighters which again if you looked,have double delta wings.
 * 4.)The "reference" you link to is not view-able by anyone,and is based on old information. If its the Flight International one,they have in the past not really been up to date with many fleets either.


 * I am not going to bother changing it back if you do ignore it,but even you should realise if the SLAF is flying a pair of J7 fighters at an air show this year,that simply saying only one Kfir is the only fighter they have is inaccurate. That indicates they have had two J7GS aircraft in an operational condition for the airshow,received two more J7GS aircraft after overhaul,one J7BS and a single FT7 trainer.

Here are the links:


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruy1S-9dJqg
 * http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=168279
 * http://www.airforce.lk/news.php?news=3232


 * The SLAF event states the F7GS/J7GS is in the display this year:


 * http://www.airforce.lk/slaf66/Tattoo.html


 * There is no Kfir stated and it backs up what The Island newspaper says,and the SLAF website backs up the Youtube video. It also makes sense since the SLAF has started a maintenance facility to overhaul the J7/F7 in Sri Lanka with CATIC who list the J7/F7 as an export product.


 * I also refer to the aircraft by its Chinese J7 designation since it means it links back to the J7 page - the F7 designation is what the export model is called,but for some reason it won't link back to the J7/F7 page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:CA1A:AF00:3962:E521:B30E:CF1F (talk) 17:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Related deletion discussion
Please see Articles for deletion/Sri Lanka Air Force Special Air Borne Force. Anyone is welcome to improve this article and link to it from relevant articles. It needs references to the SABF from reliable sources. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:34, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Original procurement numbers
Again,FOX52,do you mind reading references before randomly deleting stuff!!

This is the article from 2011 you have ignored:

https://www.4aviation.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Sri-Lanka-may11-Scramble-Stefan-Goossens.pdf

This is where it is from:

https://www.4aviation.nl/ https://www.4aviation.nl/tours-overview/

"Aviation offers different kinds of aviation tours. We aim for unique destinations worldwide that enable aviation enthusiasts to thoroughly enjoy their hobby and passion. This can be a ‘regular’ spotters trip, facilitating a visit to an air show or a more substantial and unique behind the scenes visit to an airport, air base or aircraft manufacturing plant. In general plenty of opportunities occur to make great pictures or collect serials. We specialize in military aviation, and can therefore not guarantee exactly what you can expect to see during a tour. The tour guides are experienced aviation enthusiasts and travellers. They offer just that ingredient that makes each tour to a success, both for the aircraft seen during the tour as for the companionship within the group."

These people are plan spotters who organise tours for plane spotters,so they keep track of things like serials - its kind of what these people do,and the numbers seem about right.

If you actually look at the document it also documents aircraft write-offs and crashes which can be verified if you go onto aircraft serial number databases. The thing is look at some of the numbers - the numbers of Mi24 helicopters reported by other sources says 9,and their numbers confirm 9 active and stored examples,plus 2 preserved(there are pictures - one at the air force museum and one at an air force base). The last Kfir crash happened in 2011,and look at the numbers for the Kfir - 1 in service nominally,5 the SL goverment want to overhaul according to Janes and two are preserved. Look at the numbers of remaining aircraft,they mentioned - it was 8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:CA1A:AF00:4E6:46F7:EBD5:872E (talk) 03:12, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Original procurement numbers 2021
This happened again. Fox52 keeps removing information without checking anything. Aircraft numbers were cited with lots of references to SL media reports and interviews with SL airforce officials. Also subtypes were listed with references. Now its been reverted back to the wrong numbers,with the wrong subtypes of helicopters. You are not checking the references or database links. Flightglobal is not a 100% accurate source as they refer to out of date information. The Mi17 and Mi24/Mi35 have been in operation with the SL armed forces for nearly 30 years,so there are multiple generations of these helicopters in service.

06/10/2021

Again people are using wrong numbers from Flight International,and ignoring far more accurate Sri Lankan military interviews sand sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WIKICAT1000 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Flightglobal Airforce directory 2022
This has been published a few days ago and again is inaccurate,and does not match Sri Lankan defence and media sources.

Combat aircraft F-7 5 Special mission King Air 200 (MPA) 2 Transport An-32 4 C-130K 2 MA60 2 Y-8 1 Y-12 8 Combat helicopter Bell 206 4 Bell 212/412 14 Mi-8/17/171 25 Mi-24/35 9 Training aircraft/helicopters FT-7 1 K-8 5 2* Sri Lankan Navy Type Active Combat helicopter Mi-171 4

These numbers are not accurate! For example the SLAF has not had any operational Y8 transports for over a decade! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WIKICAT1000 (talk • contribs) 12:28, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Flightglobal Airforce directory 2023
User:FOX 52 Please don't update inventory list based on just flightglobal directory. Data in flightglobal directory is not accurate. There is big mismatch with Sri Lankan defence and media sources. Example 1 - SLAF has not had any operational Y8 transports for over a decade as mentioned in the last year too. Example 2 - SLAF does not have 28 Mi17 helicopters. (Please refer local media sources to get latest data) Example 3 - flightglobal 2023 does not updated with Dornier 228 which inducted to SLAF 2022.

Not sure flightglobal access atleast SLAF offical website before creating their directory.

Clean up is good but please don't update inventory just based on flightglobal which is not accurate. Thanks Randeepa (talk) 05:15, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * in the future if you need to make sourced changes, simply do so - There is no need to discuss which sources are better - Thank you FOX 52 talk! 06:54, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @FOX 52You keep doing this. In the past accurate figures were inputed with references. You then just wipe them with inaccurate flightglobal numbers and remove comments. WIKICAT1000 (talk) 10:31, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Look above in 2022. Flightglobal said the slaf had Y8s. The slaf didn't have Y8s for a decade indicated by the databases. There are no videos or pictures of the Y8s flying for decades. SLAF website shows no Y8s:
 * https://www.airforce.lk/pages.php?pages=aircraft_fleet
 * In 2021 you wiped detail numbers and every year you do this without checking what you are wiping or reading the references. Every year people have to go through the table and update the numbers and find the references. Its time consuming when it happens every year. WIKICAT1000 (talk) 10:41, 13 August 2023 (UTC)