Talk:Sri Lankan Mukkuvar

Arayan
It is true that native arayan consider the term mukkuva as derogatory. However, it is not true that Arayan as a caste is only considered as a subsect of boat owners. Infact the majority of arayans in the field of fishing are not boat owners.

Rabidphage 12:21, 30 December 2006 (UTC) Rabidphage Araya meas royal. there are five Araya communities lived in the period of the Sangam literature. they are called MalaiArayan, Mara Arayan, Nadue Arayan, Kadala Arayan and Karai Arayan. they respectively lived in Mullai, Kurinchi,Marutham Neithal and Palai.the south Tamilnadu was occupied these communities. in the socio economic and ethical culture of the Aryans in Kadal karai of old Travancore State,mukkuvars are the same group. they are valiant deep sea fisher people. the Leader of fishing community or a family is called Arayan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.105.133 (talk) 12:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Mukkuvar and Mogaveera
The equivalent Tulu caste of Mukkuvar is called Mogaveera or Mogera. I believe two names are cognates. In my opinion, this fishermen caste name probably predates both Tamil and Malayalee linguistic identities if you consider Tulu branches from South Dravidian -I, before either of these languages. I believe present theories say Dravidian speakers migrated from North-West of India (Sindh-Gujarat-Maharashtra to South India). If we do not find any equivalent caste name in Telugu (part of SD-II) probably, the name originated after SD-I split from SD-II(in coastal Karnataka?). Anyway, more research is needed taking into consideration of Tulu caste and also antiquity of Tulu language in SD-I.

Manjunatha 11:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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This page says " Amongst Malayalee Mukkuvas, the word Mukkuva was considered derogatory previously. " Kindly provide some proof to hold up your information. The Arayas were never ranked high in the society. The Christian Mukkuvas were considered a weak part of the society, not hindu mukkuvas. Hindu mukkuvas are mostly from Trichur, Kannur, Calicut and Malabar side. They are the most affluent people in those regions from times of yore and were agriculturists and landlords. During the british times and the Independence era, most of them were mayors, commissioners or other high ranking government officers. The arayas were still going by the old tradition of going fishing or at the maximum owning boats until recently when they joined army in mass exodus and started educating their kids and are now in a comfortable position to marry the mukkuvas from the places mentioned earlier. The sentence needs to be removed until you have a proof. Swathi06 (talk) 02:32, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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Sri Lankan Mukkuvar
The caste name Mukkuvar is one used by castes crossing different regions and ethnicities. They are found in Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. However, even if they have common origin, are their identities and recent history different, and I think it would be more systematic to make separate articles for all three. I have contributed much to this article, and most of my contribution are Sri Lankan related, hence the change from only Mukkuvar to the more appropriate Sri Lankan Mukkuvar. Xenani (talk) 10:37, 10 April 2020 (UTC)