Talk:St. Andrew's cross (philately)

Copied from my talk page
One of the links at the bottom of Sheet of stamps is Andreaskreuz. The German article on this is pretty interesting. Apparently there was a time when some sheets of German stamps weren't completely filled with stamps. This was because, due to the denomination of the stamps, the PO would have had to collect some odd amount of money, and they wanted to keep things simple. To avoid having forgers use the empty spaces to make forgeries on real PO paper, Xs were printed there. These Xs are also collected nowadays. Is there an English term (and article) for these St. Andrew's crosses in philately?
 * Thanks. Scbarry (talk) 20:08, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Interesting though I was not able to understand all of the German article. I have seen the St. Andrew's Cross used in various philatelic situations. Royal Mail training school use them for something I don't remember. Bermuda postal censorship used them on some censor labels during WWII, and based on the article I seem to recall seeing them fill some blank spaces on some sheets of booklet stamps. Where to go from here as the German article has no sources to help us and I don't recall seeing anything written about this topic. ww2censor (talk) 01:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * How about this? ww2censor (talk) 05:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Just for fun, I did a quick translation of the cross article and put it at Wikipedia talk:Translation/St. Andrew's cross (philately). (I thought it would be fun if you could read it and I was tired of proofreading for a little while.) You're quite right; there are absolutely no references. If you don't think it's good for the philately project, we can easily delete it; it didn't take long to do. Have fun with it. Scbarry (talk) 05:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll have a look, but in the meantime here is another image I found, though it is German. ww2censor (talk) 05:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * St Andrews cross on a military air letter during WWII |66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 currently on eBay. So there are lots of uses in philately, something that would need to be expanded and sourced. Thanks for now; must get to bed. ww2censor (talk) 06:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You've already added some references! Does that mean you think it's worth adding to Wiki? I'd like to have someone (like Tirkfl) look it over to make sure the terminology I chose is the correct translation. Tirkfl is Austrian, so he'll probably know about some of the stuff, too. I think he'll be off for a while, but I don't know when he'll be back. The article seems to be very Autria-centric, since it seems that these were used in several countries at various times. Scbarry (talk) 06:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you do want to add it as an article, take a look at the mess of redirection and "helpful hints" that occur when you want to look at St. Andrew's cross. A nice disambig page would be a good idea.

You've also now added a picture, which is exactly perfect. Thanks!


 * Should I add a translation template and move it to Wiki now? Also, should it be spelled with an apostrophe or not? Vielen Dank. Scbarry (talk) 14:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I did move it to a real article, changed the redirect page to a disambig page and changed all the other redirects to point to the disambig (I hope I got them all!). If you want to edit the page further, look for it in the article namespace now. Cheers! Scbarry (talk) 15:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I copied (edited) the above discussion from my talk page so that the links provided might be of use to other editors. ww2censor (talk) 20:16, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Cross on a cover
What does anyone know about this cover? ww2censor (talk) 15:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)