Talk:St. Clements University

Fake university
This is a fake university. I am warned by some academician friends in Turkey and therefore i came to check this page. User:Merkantalk keep adding Turkish sentences to this article which says that this is a university accredited by Higher Education Institution of Turkey (YÖK) and as a proof, provides a link to the e-government site which one can only enter with Turkish citizienship ID. I understand those Turkish sentences are only being added for Turkish people who comes to English Wikipedia page and to make them believe that this university was accredited in Turkey. When i check that link, the university is not found in the list of accredited universities of YÖK. The claim of being registered Turks and Caicos Islands is also make this "university" very suspicious. The abbreviation for Turkish Republic in Turkish is TC and therefore all kind of scammers do like getting domains or in someway being registered in Turks and Caicos Island and then they claim they are from "TC". I suspect that a scammer is trying to user a Wikipedia page for a scam. --Basak (talk) 18:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

old dated requests
Dear Editor,

Good that you have taken out the Maine Government accusation of saying that St Clements is a 'diploma mill'. St Clements lawyer has done a good job here.

Why are you still putting the 1999 histroy information of Senator that is not proven and is not an updated situation? Why can you not allow the suggestion of putting balanced information on? Or at least bring out the questions for discussion?

St Clements University —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.182.95.142 (talk) 07:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Editor,

Thank you for allowing this message to remain, showing your openness, and act according to the rules of Wikipedia.

Thanks for taking out the Maine Government accusation and after that do you agree that the word of 'illegal' should be remove since it is not a diploma mill in any sense? You would note that Maine Government has even removed St Clements University from the list of unaccreditated Universities. This shows a strong position of St Clements University. In fact the University has remain strong and growing even after the critics for many years and the permit from Niue Government Higher Education to operate shows that the University is not 'illegal'.

Thank you and let the world observe your openness again.

St Clements University —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.254.96.232 (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

If St. Clements University is registered in the Turks & Caicos Islands "which does not offer school accreditation" and is a non-accredited school, the sentence "St. Clements University is not accredited by any accredited body recognised by its country" is superfluous.

The comment on St. Clements University Campus Centre - Niue being a member of BILD, should be put in the top section as BILD membership has nothing to do with accreditation.

The statement about BILD can stay in the non accredited status.

I would not agree with the illegal. An unaccredtated school is NOT illegal.

Professor Lim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Professorlim (talk • contribs) 21:25, 8 February 2008 - Since the link for Australian gov cannot be found, the topic of Australian controversy is hardly justified. Suggest to remove that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.152.30.169 (talk) 02:09, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

In dispute template
I'm removing the "in dispute" template because it appears to me that the above issues have been addressed. Please speak up if you disagree and it can be added back in. Thank you, TallMagic (talk) 01:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Great Britain and Australia
St Clements University has apparently closed down the branches in GB and Australia. I can't really say that in the article though because it is a conclusion based on the fact that they ran into some legal problems in those two jurisdictions and they are not on the list of campuses on the SCU website. Regards, TallMagic (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Although SCU maintained some kind of office in Australia in the past it is untrue to say that there was ever any kind of "branch" or "campus" here in any meangingful sense. I expect the same is the situation with SCU and the United Kingdom.  I suggest that any such claims reflect those currently on SCU's website. Afterwriting (talk) 12:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Afterwriting, do you know that SCU never mentioned a "branch" or "campus" in Australia or UK on their website? Do we know that the "branch" or "campus" claimed on the current website have any more meaningful substance? Perhaps the issue can be better settled by different wording of "branch" or "campus" or "location"? Perhaps we need better phrasing? "The ODA and THECB have listed associated locations in ..."? Thanks, TallMagic (talk) 13:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know whether SCU has ever mentioned Australian or UK "branches" or "campuses" on their website - but the website doesn't mention Australia or the UK anymore. And I don't know how reliable the current SCU website information is - but there is almost certainly no longer any Australian SCU presence of any real substance. In any case, to state that SCU has ever had a "campus" as such in Australia is simply incorrect. I also strongly suggest that it is at least potentially misleading to refer to any SCU presence in many or most of the countries you listed as being branches or campuses. The ODA and THECB information about SCU "locations" ( no mention of "campuses" ) probably just refers to representatives or offices and may have been accurate at one time but is almost certainly now outdated information. The phrasing, I believe, needs to more accurately reflect the current situation of SCU than its past. Its past situation should be dealt with as appropriate and accurately within the article. The current website mostly refers to "offices" and "campus centres" which appear to not be much more than computer rooms. Hope this helps. Afterwriting (talk) 14:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your thoughts. My thought in mentioning the "location affiliations" stated by ODA and THECB was that mention the statements about "the Grog shop" tied in well to the Australia connection. Have you seen the "Grog shop" story? Basically the Australia connection had an address which was also a liquor distributing company or something. The ODA refers to that column as "Location(s)". THECB titles that column "Location". Thanks again, TallMagic (talk) 15:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It could be mentioned that SCU no longer mentions that they have a location in Australia or the UK? TallMagic (talk) 15:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I think change to "centers and offices" in the introductory paragraph is a nice improvement. TallMagic (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)