Talk:St. James Town

Northern border
What's the northern border of the neighbourhood? Howard St or Bloor St?--Sonjaaa 12:45, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I think Howard St. The corner of Bloor and Sherbourne is dominated by upper middle class condos, an unlikely part of St. Jamestown.

Is every part of the city part of a neighbourhood? If so, I believe the Northern border of St. James Town would be Bloor. If you walk along this small area I believe it has more in common with St. James Town then Rosedale (it's northern neighbour).

I'm not sure what middle class condos the above poster refers to. Howard-Bloor Parliament-Sherbourne consists of approximately: 1 modern office tower, 1 low rise office building, 2 churches, a number of abandoned houses, and maybe 5 low rise apartment buildings/converted houses.

The City of Toronto depicts St. James Town as being bordered by Bloor to the North... though it also shows Jarvis as being the Western border. http://www.toronto.ca/demographics/cns_profiles/cns74.htm

--User:Punchmonkey 2007-12-19

Highest crime rate?
I lived in St Jamestown - albeit for 6 months - and never had a problem. Sure it was kind of divey but I never felt in danger, even when walking home after midnight. I hear a lot more about Malvern and Jane & Finch than this neighbourhood. Anyone have the stats? - McKell

Made up high crime rate & Wanna be ghettos
St.Jamestown quickly followed the same faith, reputation wise as Jane and Finch and Malvern. Cool kids (I named them "White Canadian born Immigrants", ("small town immigrants") from small white towns that move to Toronto and blab nonsense about neighborhoods that they know nothing about. I had first hand experienced with this in the late 1990s. White kinds talking about jane and finch, when all they know is what they herd from friends.... and they told 2 friends and so on and so on.

Both wanna be hood rats and "small town immigrants" that want to live in "american style" "prajects" do this. Since there are no "prajects", and just social housing in Canada, they want to emulate and live in what they saw in hip hop videos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.165.138.51 (talk) 21:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

St. Jamestown
It's pretty safe in Cabbagetown-South St.Jamestown, but it gets much worse in North St.Jamestown.

North St.Jamestown neighbourhood profile:

http://www.toronto.ca/demographics/pdf3/cpa74.pdf

Cabbagetown-South St.Jamestown neighbourhood profile:

http://www.toronto.ca/demographics/pdf3/cpa71.pdf

-Upham

THE ENTIRE OPENING PARAGRAPH OF THIS ARTICLE IS PLAGIARIZED FROM HERE: http://www.torontogreathomes.com/Toronto_houses/page_1522163.html. SCROLL DOWN TO ST.JAMES TOWN TO SEE. IT SHOULD BE REMOVED. (74.117.221.221 04:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC))Anonymous TIPSTER(74.117.221.221 04:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Um no. I wrote originally wrote that paragraph, and I can assure it is the other site stealing from us. - SimonP (talk) 01:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

"...very few amenities" and other things
It is not true that St. Jamestown has "very few amenities." It contains two major grocery stores, three drugstores (one major), at least six convenience stores, two restaurants, a school (Rose Avenue Public School), a church, a laundry, etc. That part of the article should be amended or deleted.

There is no mention of 545, 555, and 565 Sherbourne Street, which three buildings are technically part of St. Jamestown but differ in character from the rest of the neighbourhood.

For local colour there should be mention of the development plans for the southernmost part of Glen Road, which are being held up by one or two homeowners refusing to sell to the developer.

Finally, there is no mention of St. James Avenue, which is unusual (and perhaps notable) in that it is a major neighbourhood street with no addresses on it. DQweny (talk) 15:27, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

St. Jamestown history
St. Jamestown, Bleeker to Parliament, was originally an area of small 2-story wood frame houses. One of the poorest areas in Toronto. Prior to and during WWII Charles Ingwer bought up most of the houses in the area and rented them to bootleggers or as houses of prostitution. Soldiers on leave flocked to the area. The police tried for decades to nail Ingwer. But, since he was merely the landlord and not a bootlegger and not personally operating a house of prostitution he escaped prosecution. Until, the late 40's or very early 50's when he was nailed, I believe, for tax evasion, the same as Al Capone. While Ingwer was in jail, Meyer Lansky, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Lansky the "Mob's Accountant", came to Canada, visited Ingwer at his prison and bought Ingwer's St. Jamestown portfolio. This still left Ingwer with about 80-100 houses south of St. Jamestown. http://www.ontariotenants.ca/research/rooming-houses.phtml

Ingwer's St. Jamestown portfolio became the gateway for the massive investment that, at first, became the St. Jamestown development and then morphed into a massive Canadian real-estate enterprise centered in downtown Toronto.

In 1975-76, approximately 50 of Ingwer's houses south of St. Jamestown became the foundation of the City of Toronto's housing portfolio, before the City bought out Ontario Housing and became known as CityHome and then Toronto Community Housing Corporation http://www.torontohousing.ca/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Community_Housing_Corporation

TorontoBob (talk) 01:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Population density
The population density, using the area of 2,250,000 sq ft (1,500 x 1,500), which equals .08 square miles, and the approximate population of 17,000, is 212,500 people per square mile, which is multitudes higher than any official neighborhood in north america. For example, Manhattan is about 71,000 per sq mi. 96.46.249.223 (talk) 18:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)