Talk:St. Louis Board of Aldermen

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these maps are temporary as they will be redrawn by the census, but they can still be helpful in the short run.

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Requested move 26 February 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved  (t &#183; c)  buidhe  16:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Board of Aldermen of the City of St. Louis → St. Louis Board of Aldermen – This organization is consistently known as the "St. Louis Board of Aldermen" in all reliable sources. This article is one of very few results I could find that calls it the "Board of Aldermen of the City of St. Louis". We should use the name which is most widely used among RS. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 15:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Graphic of Seats
Hello, I could not figure out how to update the number of seats, categorized by party/color, to the page. It shows the old board of 28 seats, and it should be 14 seats now, with 14 Democrats holding the seats (STL implemented ward reduction, cutting the number of seats in half from 28 to 14). Please update the graphic to reflect 14 blue seats. Allbirdy (talk) 01:16, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Gender-neutral terminology
There have been multiple recent attempts to add gender-neutral language to this article. The overwhelming majority of sources still use the name "St. Louis Board of Aldermen" when referring to the legislature itself, including:
 * The official city website
 * The recently-passed legislative rules package (which comes straight from the new leadership and therefore should represent the most accurate self-naming of the Board)
 * Major local news outlets (1, 2).

The best evidence for the term "Board of Alderpersons" is in the text of Proposition R (2022), which does use that term to refer to the legislature as a whole. But the idea that this usage of terminology constitutes a full renaming of the legislature seems to only come from an interpretation by Ballotpedia. Clearly no official sources share that interpretation and "Board of Aldermen" is still colloquially used universally.

That 2023 rules package does, however, use the term "alderperson" to refer generically to members of the Board of Aldermen. I think usage of "alderperson" is appropriate when referencing: As far as personal titles for individual members, I think "alderman" or "alderwoman" should be preferred to "alderperson" when gender is certain. For example: "Alderwoman Alisha Sonnier" and not "Alderperson Alisha Sonnier". I don't believe there is currently an incumbent alderperson who does not identity as a man or a woman, but "Alderperson" would be appropriate as a personal title in that case. Benn257 (talk) 20:51, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The generic political office of alderperson, or
 * A group of mixed-gender alderpersons