Talk:St. Louis Lambert International Airport

New Picture On the Article
The Airport has a new runway and that picture currently in use is about 4 years old, we need a new picture that shows the new runway as well. I have found one, but I do not know how to put it on an Article. If someone can help me that would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moairguard (talk • contribs) 22:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, the FAA diagram is not usable at all. I even downloaded the file and opened it in Irfanview and couldn't read any of it no matter what I did. Considering the file is useless, other than seeing the basic runway/taxiway layout, it certainly is large. Traumatic (talk) 23:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Advertisement / Disoganised topics
There appears to be a large amount of items in this article that are written in language promoting advertisement. Large amounts of incorrect grammer have also been found all over the article. I will attempt to correct some of these things. Please if anyone can also assist in creating sub-categories and helping to put everything together in a more logical order would be much appreciated! Kcuello (talk) 04:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Kcuello, you might wish to cite one or more specific examples of languange in this article that promote advertisment. The primary contributor to this article, Sox23, would probably appreciate it if you provide more information. Does the language you question appear in Airline_lounges, Public_transportation, Expansion_-_construction, Aircraft_production, Popular_culture, or elsewhere? Likewise, would you please cite a specific instance of incorrect grammer. Providing this information, will help others make the corrections that you suggest.--Dan Dassow (talk) 23:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:STL.gif
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Daily Non-Stop Flights from Major Cities to St. Louis
There is a table of number of flights between cities and St. Louis at http://www.stlcommercemagazine.com/archives/january2007/transportation.html This information might be worth including in the Lambert-St._Louis_International_Airport article. Dan Dassow 21:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, there is no longer any service to Pittsburgh. That route was stopped sometime in 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.221.163 (talk) 14:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Former airlines
If a section on former airlines is appropriate, then the section is woefully incomplete.

Although Trans World Airlines was the major tenant for Lambert Saint Louis Airport, is TWA truly a former airline serving Lambert Saint Louis Airport? American Airlines acquired Trans World Airlines. Many of the former TWA aircraft still are in American’s fleet. Likewise, there have been other airlines that disappeared due to merger. TWA acquired Ozark Airlines. Likewise, North Central Airlines and Southern Airways merged to form Republic Airlines (1979-1986). Northwest Airlines later acquired Republic.Dan Dassow 10:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Pre-security area Images
It may be worth posting images of the baggage claim areas of both the main terminal and east terminal. This article appears to have minimal images of inside the building. If you're flying here and you're a Wikipedia contributor, you might want to carry your camera on with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MyReference (talk • contribs) 23:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I have a few images from a trip up there a week or so ago. Included are images of the baggage claim area, one of which I've already posted to wikimedia commons:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Lambert-StLouisT1BaggageClaim2017-06-05.jpg

There are a few other photographs from the T1 landside area, including the chapel, the corridor to the T1 Metrolink station, passengers exiting C concourse heading into the baggage claim area, and one shot of the iconic gables. The better results from the expedition are on my flickr account here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_ackerman/34286118864/in/album-72157684151836455/

I would be happy to upload and post any of them if they were deemed useful.

SymphonicPoet (talk) 21:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do; this page could really use a few more (and newer) pictures. Digital inf3rno (talk) 22:22, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

AA Hub
I think that you've reached a point with AA's STL hub where they are killing it slowly two or three cities at a time and will no longer be adding anything there. This is exactly what happened in Nashville and AA won't admit it until it is done and then they'll immediately start treating STL like a second class citizen as if they had never been big there and it was never important to them. Qzd800 (talk) 19:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think AA is planning on downgrading STL. According to their website, STL is still listed as a hub. They will keep claiming STL as a hub but has cut capacity (e.g. DL CVG, AA STL, CO CLE). 74.183.173.237 (talk) 02:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I would highly disagree with that based on today's news story! I think we can now say that AA is no longer a hub at Lambert. Non-stop flights to only 8 cities after the latest cuts.  (Cutting 20 non-stop destinations)
 * http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AMR-Corporation-Takes-prnews-2896750625.html?x=0&.v=1
 * I would say that flights to 8 cities does not make it a hub anymore. Jdahlem21 (talk) 16:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed it in the introduction to make it state that it is a focus city for both AA and Southwest with a different source than the one you mentioned. Does anyone know if SJU is still a hub or focus city. 74.183.173.237 (talk) 05:09, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

My edit stating that STL will remain a hub for American until the summer of 2010 was undone, citing the American Airlines infobox as a source. Two problems: No wikipedia page is a reliable source, and the source cited by that info box actually lists St. Louis as an AA hub. Clearly, STL will cease to be a hub in the summer of 2010, as documented in a number of places (including the St. Louis Post-Dispatch article I cited), but the sources I see say that it still is a hub for the time being.

I have re-edited the lead to call STL a hub for now, clearly stating that it won't be true for long. If I'm mistaken and there's a reliable source saying so, please revert my edit and cite that source. —Alex (ASHill &#124; talk &#124; contribs) 16:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, However, according AA's press release about their route structuring, They list four hubs (Chicago, Dallas/Fort Worth, Miami, and New York). 74.183.173.237 (talk) 00:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Old Runway 17-35
I recently read an accident report from 1968, that mentions a runway 17 at STL. I was familiar with the airport in that era, and don't recall that runway, nor any airplanes taking off or landing in that direction. The accident report refers to a DC-9 landing on 17, so it just wasn't a short runway for general aviation use. The airport diagram looks as though the approach end of 17 was next to runway 24, with the departure end (35 approach end), close to where the old TWA hangar was. I've rattled my brain trying to remember this runway, and just can't visualize it. Anyone have any info as to what year this runway was closed? There seems to be no trace of it, as either a taxiway or just X'ed out, as is sometimes the case on current airport diagrams. I assume they tore it up pavement and all. 68.52.148.224 (talk) 02:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)eelb

I believe you might be confusing STL with ALN (which has a runway 17-35 that is DC-9 capable). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.245.77.126 (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Runway 17-35 at STL was 6000 ft in 1975; by 1984 it had been cut back to 3000 ft. Tim Zukas (talk) 16:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info Tim. Guess I wasn't there when the wind was right. To the other user, no this wasn't ALN. This accident, a mid-air between an Ozark DC-9 and a Cessna 150, is fairly well known. It was one of several mid-airs across the U.S.in that era at major airports. These led to the creation of Terminal Control Areas, now known as Class B airspace. Eelb53 (talk) 07:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)eelb

Sun Country Airlines
I don't believe they serve STL, even on a seasonal basis. Can anyone confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.245.77.126 (talk) 14:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Sun Country Airlines' website does not show St. Louis as one of their destinations. --Dan Dassow (talk) 14:14, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not aware that Sun Country flies any charters from STL. They certainly don't do so for Apple Vacations - all the Apple flights rom STL are flown by Frontier Airlines, as in this link:

http://www.applevacations.com/flight-schedule/stl-st_louis/

However, there is a confusion about that as well. The Frontier/Apple flights are also sold as Frontier scheduled flights, and can be booked on the airline's website, as in this link - last para:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2014/02/19/frontier-adding-3-new-nonstop-routes-from-st-louis/5604671/Marinerpacific (talk) 09:53, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Listing future destinations and "begins" / "ends" dates
Is it really encyclopedic to list future destinations or the "begins __" / "ends __" dates? That would seem to be more of an advertising piece of information than an encyclopedic one. Striker force Talk Review me! 17:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh, this is simply WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT standard. Every airport is like that. Bring your discussion there please. HkCaGu (talk) 17:57, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Most carriers don't really announce every route that is ending. If the nonstop flight does not appear to be bookable or if it goes thru another city to get to that destination, then it is definitely ending. Just state in the edit summary "removed from schedules, booking engine, etc." or "per (airline code) schedules". I have put references for AirTran and Southwest but Vision Airlines to Cancun and Montego Bay need sources so I tag a "citation needed" until a source can be found. If you can book a flight on Vision Airlines on or after those dates, then those destinations stay. If those flights can't be booked then remove saying in the edit summary: "not bookable or not in schedules". Snoozlepet (talk) 21:45, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

File:Lambert field from the air.jpg Nominated for Deletion
fixed!!~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.252.11.235 (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Missing information: historic passenger numbers
Hi, could anyone provide historic passenger numbers? The article currently only covers the years since 2006, but earlier numbers might also be interesting. I guess STL once had around 30 million passengers per year, so it's definitely worth reporting.--FoxyOrange (talk) 12:26, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

While re-working our passenger statistics table recently, I noticed that passenger counts from 1985-1989 are given, yet no source is cited. If anyone has a source for these numbers, then please add one to the table. Also, if anyone could find aircraft operations for those years (commercial only is preferred, but total is acceptable with a side-note), it would be much appreciated. Thank you. Digital inf3rno (talk) 09:52, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Disregard the above; I finally found the archived sources for both numbers. Digital inf3rno (talk) 05:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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Lambert–St. Louis International Airport → St. Louis Lambert International Airport – See article for details about airport's name change. Whir (talk) 11:09, 18 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Support Name has been changed. Airport website is using the new name. Plantdrew (talk) 16:59, 20 February 2017 (UTC)


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Ozark Air Lines Flight 965
I've written a draft article on Ozark Air Lines Flight 965. I'm seeking additional information and citations from sources other than the NTSB report; a key piece of missing information is the identity of the person in the left pilot's seat of the DC-9. Comments and additions are welcome. Carguychris (talk) 19:26, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

this is a southwest hub too!!!
YEAH IT IS 2600:6C40:0:FF1:EC21:8241:EF7F:74BF (talk) 03:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)