Talk:St. Vincent's Church, Cork

Tunnel materials/Holly Bough
Hi. I don't have (I don't think) a copy of the 2005 edition of the Holly Bough, and so am not able to directly validate the "Riots, nuns and Black Death" source, but could I ask: (Just curious really.) Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 17:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * what the article says in support of the statement that the church is built of "red sandstone reputed to have come from the Cork railway tunnel"? (What do we mean "come from"? Was it built of material quarried during the tunneling? Or bricks "left over" from the tunnel lining process? "Come from" is a bit vague...)
 * who authored the source material? (I ask because the Holly Bough includes many reader submissions. Which may not, perhaps, be subject to the same editorial verification as other publications.)


 * Hi @Guliolopez. First, thanks for reviewing. Second, I don't think I can attach a screenshot in user talk, but here is the exact quote from "Riots, nuns and Black Death" which is just a list of notable events in Cork city. Short snippets about what happened in Cork history on a given day. They are _not_ user submitted, I think the original source is the book "Cork 365" which they mention in the headline ("Continuing our diary of Cork's lifetime, taken from the book, Cork 365".
 * And for the actual quote, quoting in full:
 * July 20, 1856: The Bishop of Cork, Dr Delaney, solemnly blessed St Vincent's Church. The gothic-style building was built in red sandstone reputed to have come from the Glanmire Road railway tunnel. Podstawko   ●talk  19:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks. I guess with the "reputed" qualifier, the lack of (downstream) sourcing/support is probably less of an issue. But, I wonder, if something other than a listicle in the Holly Bough would improve things. And allow for the removal or clarification of the "reputed" qualifier. In time/when available. Guliolopez (talk) 20:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I do note that this source says that "the excavation of the Glanmire Road tunnel, 1.2 kilometres in length [..] provided the city with many tonnes of red sandstone". And so, while not specific enough to support the related text, it makes it more than plausible that the church (built shortly after the tunneling work) was one of the city projects provided with stone... Guliolopez (talk) 20:27, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This is an amazing find. And you're much faster than I am, I was trying to find proof for the "reputed" statement too, but you beat me to it. Thank you! Also, will try and hunt for more supporting sources at my next Cork Library visit... Podstawko   ●talk  20:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)