Talk:St Enoder

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Is St Enoder actually a village? It is certainly a parish, also probably classifies as a hamlet, but not a village I feel. Arghans (talk) 00:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyone? As the Online Parish Clerk (Genealogy) for the Parish - as well as a resident - I would classify St Enoder as Parish and Hamlet. Certainly not a village - that role is now filled by Summercourt Arghans (talk) 23:38, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, unless someone objects before the end of August, I intend to change the entry to reflect St Enoder as being the Parish and hamlet, rather than village.

Arghans (talk) 00:42, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

St Enoder is NOT a manor. There are several Manors in the Parish - e.g Arrallas, Goenrounsen, Chyverton etc etc - but St Enoder itself is not the Manor.

Arghans (talk) 02:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, leave the Manor reference - even if it is wrong. I am not happy to have the religious supposition regarding the name of the Parish. In Cornish, Eglos y'n dowr means church in the water - and the church was indeed once set in a marshy freshwater lake (evidence provided by various freshwater snail shells found in the area) So "y'n dowr" would sound very close to Enoder - and my belief is that the name is a slight corruption of the Cornish. The various Saints associated with the church appear to have been much later additions. Certainly, the Domesday book metions the parish as "Eglosneuder" - which is the Cornish name mutated slightly. As such, there seems to have been no Saint associated with the Parish in the late 11th Century. Arghans (talk) 12:25, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * St Enoder was certainly a manor in Norman times as shown by the record in Domesday Book (spelled "Heglosenuder"); there may have been other manors later but we would need reliable sources to mention them as such. Apart from Domesday the earliest mention of St Enoder appears to be as "Sancti Enodri" in 1271 (Ekwall, E. (1949) The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place-names; 2nd ed. Oxford: Clarendon Press; p. 381). Craig Weatherhill records "Eglos Enoder" in 1416 and gives the derivation as "St Enoder's church" (Weatherhill, Craig (2009). A Concise Dictionary of Cornish Place-Names. Evertype. ISBN 9781904808220) It is possible as you suggest that the saint never existed and that the name was corrupted into a saint's name but WP works from reliable sources. The Catholic saint directory is probably not a good source so could be deleted.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 19:31, 30 December 2014 (UTC)