Talk:Stalingrad (1993 film)

Irina's assault
I have edited the description of what happens when the men find Irina tied to the bed. The article previously did not identify her experience as war rape, or mention the men planning on assaulting her. It further described her as revealing that she was a collaborator. This is untrue; she describes herself as a collaborator in a suicidally depressed state, traumatized by her rapes and imprisonment at the hands of the officer. Her words are not a confession that she has been willingly collaborating, but a self-hating statement made by a survivor of sexual violence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.74.4.92 (talk) 01:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Extended version
Any info on the extended version? Like Das Boot, this film is a condensed version from the TV series. --Pelladon 08:17, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The North American version has a 150 minute runtime. If the posted plot is of the 132 minute version, there isn't enough detail to spot the differences.--2ltben 15:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Objection to the opening paragraph
The statement that Platoon or Apocalypse Now are in any way realistic or even not romantic is nonsense. Apocalypse Now is just "Heart of Darkness" set in the Nam, while Platoon was just overwrought garbage. A better opening paragraph might be, "Stalingrad is bunch of fictionalized crap just like Apocalypse Now, Platoon, and Saving Private Ryan. Like those movies, it purports to be about real events, but is actually a wholly fake reflection of its creators biases and prejudices." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.86.153 (talk) 05:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the comparison to those films is faulty and should be removed from the intro.139.48.25.61 (talk) 19:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The opening paragraph also states that it's the second film to portray the battle of Stalingrad, yet there's a link to a 1989 fim called "Stalingrad" under the "See Also" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.172.25 (talk) 09:40, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Does Unteroffizier Rohleder die?
When I saw the movie, I never actually saw Rohleder die. You just see him sitting next to the dying captain in the snow as the rest of the troops surrender. Am I right or have I missed something?Jocke i Tierp (talk) 19:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes you are right we never see Rohleder die. Rollo probably died in a POW Camp. The Captain looked pretty dead to me tho ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.23.157.15 (talk) 14:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Plot Neutrality
The plot section seems to be written with a agenda in mind for instance,

Although this film contradicts what most people think of Nazi soldiers, Rollo fits this stereotype perfectly well- A fanatical, die-hard believer who is willing to fight to the death and is hungry for medals.dals.

The troops are not S.S., they are Wehrmacht, the second part of the sentence is self explanatory. I'm going to add a tag to it, hopefully we can clean it up. --Elven6 (talk) 03:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

As I've seen this film multiple times I can tell you that, while it clearly not shows Germans as ruthless killers, the character description of Rollo fits perfect.--91.115.17.119 (talk) 17:08, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * @Elven6 - Nazi army does not describe the Waffen-SS only. Why do you believe the section is not neutral?--78.128.177.216 (talk) 08:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * THIS IS AWFUL, JUST AWFUL!!! ALL GERMANS ARE MURDERERS THE BLOOD OF 7 MILLION JEWS IS ON YOUR HANDS 7 MILLION GODS CHOSEN FOLK YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL BYE BYE DUMKOPFS!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.226.45 (talk) 01:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah for sure, me thinks the stereotypes have been assigned for the wrong people. Anyway, I think one needs to give the movie credit for being a bit more nuanced then the usual anti-German hate propaganda from Hollywood sources, but yes also from sources sponsored by the "federal republic". --196.210.248.146 (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

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