Talk:Stamford, Connecticut/Archive 1

This archive includes threads from Talk:Stamford, Connecticut from the page's creation until December 31st, 2009.

Size of this article
This article is now 31 kilobytes long, but the recommended size of Wikipedia articles is 32 kilobytes. Before I took some information out, it was about 46 kilobytes. I summarized various sections and created three new articles (on Stamford's economy, history and arts & culture) which incorporate all the information that was here.Noroton 01:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirect
Shouldn't typing in "stamford, ct" redirect here? MC Dupree 03:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ku Klux Klan
An anonymous person keeps trying to edit out the KKK part that I inserted a while back. Finally we've gotten a comment from that person, saying "this has nothing to do with the history of Stamford." I beg to differ. If Stamford had enough KKK members to organize a rally here (apparently the biggest in the state), then it's a dramatic and important part of the city's history and worth noting -- especially since a lot of people don't know about it. Sure it's embarassing. Too bad. I love Stamford, but loving it means accepting its past, warts and all. Anonymous person, please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia practices. You won't get anywhere trying to force your opinions on the rest of us.Noroton 03:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

A quote of Frank Rich altered
An anonymous contributor recently took a quote of FD Rich in the History/Downtown Redevelopment section and altered it. The quote had come from a New York Times article and was referenced so that anyone could go back to the Times article (still on the web and freely available to anyone). The change didn't appear to be malicious -- rather the contributor appeared to want to protect Rich from sounding wrongheaded or to make clearer what Rich wanted to say (to refer to Tresser Boulevard instead of perhaps all strets or all downtown streets as not being meant for pedestrian traffic).

This is egregious: Altering a statement is one thing, but you don't alter someone's words within a quote.

I actually have no problem with using proper editing to refine the meaning of the quote. I'll make a change to that effect in the wording because I think it would be more accurate. But let's not alter quotes, because it's a form of lying and it doesn't get us closer to accuracy, whatever the motivation.Noroton 13:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The quote's been altered again, anonymously again and again without comment. I changed it back AND WILL KEEP DOING SO.Noroton 21:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Movies filmed in Stamford
I saw the list that was recently added of movies filmed in Stamford. I am not sure there is a single film in the list that is well known. With that in mind, I propose that this section be removed. --rogerd 02:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I added the list. The Cardinal was directed by well-known director Otto Preminger, and St. John's Roman Catholic Church downtown is essentially unchanged from what it looked like inside when parts of the movie were filmed there. With DVD rentals available for so many movies nowadays (and the possibilities of renting obsure movies increasing) I think interest is heightened in all sorts of old movies. Besides,why remove items from a list simply because they're not well known? I think that's a good standard for whether Wikipedia should have an article about something, but the standard for a mere item on a list doesn't need to be that high. (But I'm relatively new and perhaps there's a Wikipedia standard, policy or tradition I'm unfamiliar with.) People in Stamford, who are likely to read that far down in the article, will find the list interesting, and they might go elsewhere to learn more about particular movies. The subject of what movies were made in a town often comes up in conversations in Stamford and elsewhere. I know the Stamford Advocate has done at least one story on all the movies that were made in the city, and I've heard The Cardinal come up in conversations with people in Stamford numerous times over the years, even though it was made more than 40 years ago. The fact that movies keep getting filmed in Fairfield County is another reason why the subject keeps coming up. And Connecticut's new tax incentives for films made in the state should keep that going. So I say, keep the list.Noroton 13:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Civil War (comics)
Should there be a mention at all of the fact that the current Marvel miniseries Civil War is a result of events that happened in Stamford? I know that it's fictional, but there could be a sentence or two. --Brand Eks
 * Great idea. Please add it.Noroton 03:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Parks and Recreation
When the municipal golf courses are such an integral part of the city's history and current culture, why would you remove reference from this section. The Stamford city website includes both courses as a part of the "parks and recreation" of the city. (Please see - http://www.ci.stamford.ct.us/ParksAndRecreation/default.htm) It only seems reasonable we would include the mention here. McAngeOK 02:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have a feeling someone (I hope it wasn't me) did a revert and your golf courses paragraph was lost by mistake. I'm glad you put it back.Noroton 04:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Stamford crime rate
What is the basis for the statement that the "low crime rate has been attributed to effective policing and the fact that Stamford is wealthier and not as diverse as many cities of comparable size?" I wonder what evidence exists to support the supposition that crime is in part attributable to diversity. Also, according to the 2000 census Stamford is 30% minorities. Is this really so exceptionally low for a city over 100,000 that it would partly explain Stamford's exceptional rating as the safest 100,000+ city in America?
 * I'm not sure who wrote this, but I have my own comments about the crime section. Citation is needed for basically every sentence (or rather as a whole, it all looks like it came from the same report).  Attributing the crime rate to efective policing and wealth without citation is speculation.  Attibuting it to low diversity...leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Jakerforever 13:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Stamford Hospital - the only hospital in Stamford?
I was born in 1956 at St. Joseph hospital, and also had surgery there when I was 10. My family moved to the Midwest in 1968, so I don't know a lot about Stamford today. What happened to St. Joseph Hospital? I recall that in the 60s it was a full service hospital. --rogerd 22:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it closed down -- I think some time in the 1990s. Stamford Hospital took it over and eventually tore down the building and put up another one, called "Tully Health Care Center" where testing is done (and perhaps some minor operations, but no overnight stays).Noroton 00:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Zip Code 06903 is that wealthy? Cite it
Having lived in Stamford there are some really expensive places, probably even beyond North Stamford in Shippan and behind Cumming's Park, Dolphin Cove too.

Temperature
Climate is an important factor when describing a city. Anyone with good reliable data???

Population
According to a recent article in the Stamford Advocate: the city is the third largest in Connecticut

Comics
Am I missing something or was the mention of Stamford (via Civil War) deleted? Lots42 22:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it was me who originally started putting information about that into the article. I got more information and added it until it was a pretty substantial paragraph, which I thought did justice to the topic, but seemed a little overlarge for this article. For that reason, I moved the whole thing to History of Stamford, Connecticut and put it in the 21st century section. Another motivation for doing it was to get rid of the "Trivia" or "Stamford in popular culture" sections, which Wikipedia is now discouraging (I forget the guideline or policy). Rather than have someone delete it according to policy or when I wasn't looking, I thought that was the best way to save it. I suppose we could put a sentence in the History section of this article, because I do think it's at least that noteworthy. Contemporary history is worth a little more emphasis than the rest in a main article. (I also moved mention about "The Office" television program into that same article.) Noroton 20:43, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Thanks for the info. If anyone feels it is important, Stamford continues to be, technically, featured in the comics 'Avengers: The Iniative' is the title, I believe. A training camp for goverment sponsored superheros has been built in the site of the fictional explosion. Boy, that sentence makes little sense at all if viewed from the prespective of someone who hasn't read the comics. Lots42 01:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that information is worth a short sentence in the paragraph in the History of Stamford, Connecticut article.Noroton 02:55, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * See WP:TRIVIA. Actually, I think a little information about the comics series, "The Office" TV program and Stamford as a filming location could go in the top section to show an increasing fame for the city, so I think I'll add it there. That context shows it isn't trivia. Noroton 20:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I just added a short paragraph to the top section.Noroton 21:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Fire Department Controversy
Should there be mention of the current controversy between Keatley, Malloy, and the volunteer fire departments, either here or in Malloy's page? Minaker (talk) 21:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't even have a government section on the page. There is a "Politics" section, but this seems kind of strange to drop it in there. We should have a government section, actually. But what would this controversy be worth? A couple of regular-sized sentences? Can it be adequately described in that length? I just don't see it. If we had a section describing the city government, then I think a couple of sentences on this would fit in well. Otherwise it'll just look strange, won't it? If we had an article on Stamford city government, then no question. Why not add a bit to the Malloy page? Noroton (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, I agree that it would be more appropriate for the Malloy article. However, although I think someone should add this, it shouldn't be me, since my take on the topic is too biased. Minaker (talk) 12:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Another possibility is a few lines at History of Stamford, Connecticut, but it's only worth a couple of lines there. There's been a recent story in The Advocate, which I'll clip and maybe write up something from, unless someone gets to it first. Keep in mind that a few sentences can't say much. If there were an article like Government and politics of Darien, Connecticut for Stamford, it could be given perhaps 2-3 paragraphs. Noroton (talk) 13:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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Chimpanzee
Does this current news event "chimpanzee mauls woman" really belong in here? Jeffcutter (talk) 03:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Someone seems to have vandalized the article with rampant chimpanzee references, especially in the History section. I will attempt to revert the changes back. Pressuredrop16 (talk) 04:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)