Talk:Stan Marsh/Archive 1

Stan's relationship with Wendy
Please don't delete that section again, because I tried really hard to repair it, and if anyone does, I will have to do something that does not involve repairing the section. Grieferhate (talk) 07:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Why is it all deleted? Its a really big part of Stans biography —Preceding unsigned comment added by NannaKP (talk • contribs) 21:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, if anyone tries to shorten the "Best-friendship with Kyle" section again, my threat from the original message will apply to this one as well. Grieferhate (talk) 07:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I warned you all. Grieferhate (talk) 07:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think you're going to find many editors giving too much weight to "warnings" from vandal IP's. Captain Infinity (talk) 18:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Who are you calling "vandal IP address?" I was unwilling to log in for fear of being banned at school. Grieferhate (talk) 07:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The current talk page for the IP address you were using, 87.84.59.36, shows 24 vandalism warnings, including 4 blocks. It is, without a doubt, a vandal IP. Your "warnings" are a joke.  Editors who desire to improve this article will most assuredly do what it takes to do so, in spite of your "warnings" and whether you like it or not. Captain Infinity (talk) 00:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, maybe there are many acts of vandalism on the page, but most of them were not committed by me personally, but the whole of my school uses the IP address, so any one of them could have done it. I am no longer using my IP address now, so my warnings will be more real than anything. Kindly stop annoying me and let's just end this "warning" argument peacefully. Grieferhate (talk) 23:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Stan and Wendy's virginities
I noticed that the person who mentioned it could be tounge-in-cheek stated that they said they would wait until they were seventeen in Proper Condom Use. Good try, but the interview, if you look at the date on the website, took place in early 2001 - before the start of season 5, which was the season the episode was aired in, so they would not have made this decision yet. If they HAD had sex, it would have been in Season 4 or below. Did you even read the interview before adding it? 86.139.73.82 (talk) 21:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Stan and Kyle break up in Trapped in the Closet?
I don't think they really break up, Kyle just refuses to play with Stan because he is not joining in their games. This doesn't indicate much of a breakup. Grieferhate (talk) 22:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

They didn't break up in Kenny Dies either. Kyle just scolded Stan for his strange behaviour. 87.84.59.36 (talk) 19:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

They kind of break up near the episode's end - quote: "If you guys can't accept this great thing I belong to, then I suppose we're no longer friends!"

True, but Stan later refused to accept it himself, so does that really count? At least Kyle only officially forgave Stan after Stan saved his life in Super Best Friends. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grieferhate (talk • contribs) 21:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Heritage
I just wanted to let everyone know I editied Stan's entry. He is not Italian-American, and there is no evidence to support this conclusion. The evidence we do have points to German-English. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.118.126 (talk • contribs).

Can you elaborate on this, please? Yanksox 14:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The last name, Marsh, is of German origin. The name Stanley is also. His grandfather flew Spitfires in WWII- Spitfires are British planes. Shelly, Sharon, Randy, Stan are all English names, with Stan being the english version of Stanley. Kern is a Welsh-English-Scottish mixed name. The only way anyone could say he is Italian-American is if you want to say he is adopted. Honestly, why say he is Italian-America? It's not true. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.118.126 (talk • contribs).
 * Not quite. "Stan" is not the "English version" of "Stanley", it is the pet form of it. Wilhelmina Will 19:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

By the way, on this site: http://www.parenthood.com/babynames.html, I found out the actual origins of the names in that family: Sharon=Hebrew, Randall (Randy)=German, Shelley=English, Stanley=English, Marvin-German, Flora (Sharon's aunt "Flo")=Italian. So maybe Stan does have some Italian heritage, but it would seem he also has a ton of German and English ancestry. Wilhelmina Will 19:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, it's me again. Someone tried to sneak the Italian thing in again, and I editied it to protect it from becoming a pile of lies. :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.118.126 (talk • contribs).

There is no suggestion in the show that Stan is Italian and it should not be provided as official information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.236.70.21 (talk • contribs).

I am Italian-American and the comment about first names and grandfather's roots can be drastically wrong. My first name is Nicholas, that doesn't warrant me as Greek or Russian. The only point you do have is last names. But my girlfriend is also Ialian-American, and her last name is Irish. A name doesn't really matter, it's how far you go. This is just a cartoon and to be frank, Stan could be anything. Oh, and I forgot. Ellis Island. Names were changed, my dad had his first name changed there. Well...I'm tired. Yanksox 05:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Very true- But Marvin Marsh said he flew Spitfires in WWII. Spitfires=British plane. And, while Stan COULD be anything, all evidence we can gather points to German-English. We can only go on the information we have. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.118.126 (talk • contribs).

That's one half of his family. Meh, I really don't care. It's a funny show that won a peabody award. Yanksox 13:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

It's my favorite show, hence why I am very stringent about it. Stan is also my favorite character, heh. As for it being only one-half of his family- correct. But Sharon, mauden name Sharon Kern, Kern is a mixed Brittania name as I described before. It wouldn't have any reason to be changed, neither would Marsh. Both names are easily pronouncable in English. :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.118.126 (talk • contribs).
 * Sharon's maiden name actually wasn't "Kern", it was "Kimble". You may be thinking that she and Jimbo are siblings. That isn't the case. In an interview at the official site, Matt Stone actually said that Jimbo and Randy are half-brothers by different fathers, hence why their surnames are different. Wilhelmina Will 19:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

But it comes down to roots and name changes. It's VERY complicated. ALOT of Italians changed their names just so they could slide in. Like one of my least favorite Artists Dean Martin, and Nick Cage changed his name. But that was to prove he could make it on his own. Yanksox 16:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

TRue again, but we have to work with the information we have. What we have points to German-English. Until an episode is done to clarify his heritage, we can only go so far. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.118.126 (talk • contribs).

Oh, and Kenny has an older brother who is his biological sibling, so I'm taking that out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.118.126 (talk • contribs).

I changed his age to 8. In 914 - Bloody Mary, he says "I'm 8!" I think we've learnt in another episode that he's 9, but this is the latest proof of age we have. UPDATE: OK, 8-9 is good. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.225.185.78 (talk • contribs).


 * In A Very Crappy Christms, we learn that Stan has black hair and blue eyes which makes him black Irish. That's by no means concrete evidence, but it does further confuse the issue of his heritage. Tweeks Coffee 18:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me, but blue eyes are a common thing in Germany. And I know of many Germans who have black hair. So do their descendants. And what about Wendy Testaburger? We don't know her eye colour, but we know for a fact that her hair is black. And from her name, we can easily guess that she is of Germanic descent. Please remember that not every German has blond/e hair. I have a German grandmother, and her hair was brown when she was younger. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wilhelmina Will (talk • contribs).

Wikipedia is not the place for speculation, per WP:V and WP:NOR. If someone can verify these claims, it would help, but as there appears to be no evidence (other than speculation), do not include such rumours in the page. Thank you. Watch37264 18:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Grandfather being Italian
Please do not restore this category without a reference from one of the episodes or something. It was added by a user who added "Italian-Americans" to a bunch of fictional characters, including Kenny McCormick. Mad Jack 04:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I had an English uncle who had black hair and blue eyes, so we can't really pin it down. To put him in any category is baseless. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.32.151.162 (talk • contribs).

Exactly. IT would be much better to say "Stan's name indicates that he may be of German/English descent".

Wilhelmina Will June 24th, 2007.

Picture
Is it just my perception or is the coloring of Stan's trousers slightly different to the way its depicted on the wikipedia image? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.109.167.212 (talk • contribs).

Order Of Who's Oldest To Youngest Doesn't Make Sense
When I looked at the South Park calender and then say the articles of the four boys. it doesn't make sense how Cartman can be the 2nd oldest, Kenny be the 3rd oldest and Kyle being the youngest. I'm sure Stan is the oldest out of the boys. Remember all the boys are 9. I will use the years 1996, 1997, and 1998 as examples and take it as this year of 2006. Stan's birthday is October 19 so and he's the oldest so he would have to be born in 1996. Kenny's birthday is March 22 but his article says he's the 3rd oldest and Eric Cartman's article says his birthday is July 1st and he's the 2nd oldest. But if Kenny's the 3rd oldest that would make him born in 1998. Kyle's birthday is May 26 and if Cartman is the 2nd oldest and Kenny being the 3rd oldest that would make him born in 1998. If Kyle and Kenny are born in 1998 that would make it impossible for them to be 9. What it should be is Stan being the oldest born on October 19, 1996, Kenny being the 2nd oldest born on March 22, 1997, Kyle being the 3rd oldest born on May 26, 1997, and Cartman being the youngest born on July 1, 1997. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by COLD MAN (talk • contribs).

Information Of Who's Oldest To Youngest Out Of The Four Boys From The South Park Calender
I got this information from the South Park Calender.

Birthdays If you use the cutoff date of September 1 by which all kids have to be 8 to enter 3rd grade, or 9 to enter 4th grade, then the four boys turn 9 during 3rd grade, and 10 during 4th grade. Given their birthdays in 3rd grade, the boys turn nine in this order: Stan - October 19 Kenny - March 22 Kyle - May 26 Cartman - July 1 If Cartman's birthday is February 4 instead of July 1, the dates are Stan - October 19 Cartman - February 4 Kenny - March 22 Kyle - May 26 Stan is thus the oldest of the four boys. Whether Kyle or Cartman is the youngest depends on when you believe Cartman's birthday falls. Cartman's is the only birthday we've seen so far (except for Jesus' and Grandpa Marsh's).

From this information Stan is the only one that we really know what spot of who's oldest to youngest out of the four boys which Stan is the oldest and that we can put in his article. Cartman's birthday could either be February 4 or July 1 so Cartman is either the 2nd oldest or the youngest which we can put in his article. Kenny is either the 2nd oldest or the 3 oldest which we can put in his article. Kyle is either the 3rd oldest or the youngest which we can put in his article. I couldn't find a site that can prove whether Cartman's birthday is February 4 or July 1. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SuperMarioGamer (talk • contribs).

Stan Eats Meat
Stan eats Meat. Some might believe, if they blank out the last few minutes of Fun With Veal, that he is a vegan now. However, if you actually watch and listen, he makes fun of the idea. Also, in the Episode "Goobacks", Stan tries to order a burger. He also eats meat on many other occasions after "Fun With Veal". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.32.151.162 (talk • contribs).

Well, so? Loads of people do that. He just beleives that baby cows should live their lives BEFORE they are eaten. --Coolspanner 15:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

And when did I say he doesn't believe that? Someone tried to put in that he is a vegan. That is a lie. Look at the history before you comment next time. -Shane —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Mass Murderer?
What puts him under the category of "mass murderers?" Who did he mass murder? -December 30, 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BNLfan53 (talk • contribs).

He and Cartman were responsible for the flooding of Beaverton:

"but we believe that the death toll may be in the hundreds of millions. Beaverton has only a population of about eight thousand, Tom, so this would be quite devastating."

"Tom, I am standing just outside of Chicago, where the panic of global warming has already caused countless deaths. Already we're reporting that the death toll here in Chicago is over 600 billion people"

THobern —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.165.140.5 (talk • contribs).


 * Uh, that was a joke. We don't really know if anyone at all died, it was a parody of news stories greatly exaggerating disasters, like Katrina. Tweeks Coffee 14:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * But if the news said that people died, people probably died. It's not like it didn't really happen; they did break the dam after all... Wilhelmina Will 19:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Plus, it would make him guilty of genocide, not mass murder.- Shane —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.220.254.216 (talk • contribs).

Stan's Birthday
It is October 19th, not April 13th. Whoever is doing this needs to stop.-Shane —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.54.87.125 (talk) 08:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Sorry if I sound like a fool, but does anyone know what his birthday is for sure? No. Then why assume something that we don't know? --98E 22:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The birthday for Trey Parker has been associated with Stan Marsh ever since Mr. Parker was asked in a June 1999 interview about birthdays and he responded by saying that his and Stan's birthdays were the same. So, you know, read up.-Shane —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.146.62.185 (talk) 18:14, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Stan is 10
As of October 19th, 2006, Stan is 10. Stop saying he's 9. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Der4 (talk • contribs).


 * What exactly makes him 10? As far as I know they're still in fourth grade and time hasn't actually progressed since they were said to be 9. Tweeks Coffee 22:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

He is 10 because it's past October 19th, 2006, and he was born on October 19th, 1996. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Der4 (talk • contribs).


 * He's a fictional character. He's however old the writers say he is. CovenantD 02:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If he was born in 1996, then how was he 8 in 1996? If we went by real time, Stan would actually be 19 now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tweeks Coffee 13:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

If we really wanted to push it, we could say this: The show started in '97, before October. He was eight then. So, he would have turned nine in '97. He would therefore turn 19 this year. However, none of this matters. He is as old as Stone and Parker want him to be. I think he is nine, but they change that all the time. Sometimes they say eight.-Shane —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.57.213.1 (talk • contribs).

98E is correct that 8 was the last referenced age for Stan, but he has said before that he's 9. I'm not too sure if we should keep his age at 8 or include the mention that he's been 9 before. Seems like a gray area to me, I know that previous cases like this have generally gone by the most current info we have. Tweeks Coffee 01:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Why is there a horrible picture?
That idiot thing hardly qualifies as a picture. It does not show him completely, and has a stupid face. Someone please make a picture that shows him completely AND is in a SVG format. FictionH 23:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Mmm...I think you are taking it personal. I'm not trying to express that your picture is useless. Well, actually it is, because there's an SVG images available (I've already fixed the buttons). Ans about the "idiot thing"; hahahah you are calling your image "idiot thing" because I took your image as a base for my SVG version. Another thing, this Image:StanMarsh.PNG is a copyright violation. Look, "Permission": I allow you to use it for ANY purpose. You are not Trey Parker or Matt Stone, you can allow the use of this image, this is copyright image, but you are not the holder of the copyrights, that's why you can't even "irrevocably release all rights". In fact, it's a character-artwork. And it's a fair-use image, becuase it's a derivated work. Anyway, I'm changing the SVG image, not that it's fixed (the buttons). The last thing, the colors are different from the original version. Your image has rare blue pants. Armando.O talk •  Ev 01:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Folks, calm down Jesus Christ; by the way just use screenshots since they are MUCH more accurate and cannonical - I think that's the spelling apologies if I'm wrong. So I'm gonna upload some screenshots and use them....


 * I've already uploaded screenshots for the 5 boys, but if you want to upload screenshots for other characters, go right ahead. FictionH 00:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the image. Armando claimed it had buttons on Stan's coat now, but they're wasn't. --98E 17:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Age
Stan is actually 8. In Bloody Mary he says he's 8, and we've seen no later proof of his age, so he must be 8. --98E 19:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

In the most recent episode, Night of the living homeless, Kyle confirms that all four of them are 9 Harriercod 17:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * He's correct, Kyle said they were 9 in 1107. "Are you homeless or homeowners?"  "We're nine." Tweeks Coffee 20:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh. Alright. I haven't seen them all, so I didn't know. --98E 20:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't change image back
This account is now owned by Trey Parker. I have put a free image there now. Don't revert it, use free images over fair use images. 79Bottles 20:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Bloody Mary
I deleted a large section under Family - Stan's dad, as it was more of an episode description. The text is below, if any else wants to read it.

...where Stan had to constantly object to Randy drinking and even had to drive him to the Bleeding Miracle Statue (Stan drove and parked the car without crashing, despite him not being able to see over the dashboard), since Randy was too drunk to do it himself and threatened Stan with "Either you drive this car or I will!" Randy thought he had been cured when he was covered in blood from the bleeding Mary statue; however once the Pope declared it was not a miracle, Randy went back to drinking. Stan eventually gave a speech at the end of the episode which convinced Randy to never drink again. Stan objected to this too, saying that if you devote your life to avoiding something you like then that thing still controls your life. He told Randy he needed to learn some "Disciprine" (a quote used by his Japanese Karate teacher earlier in the episode); this speech convinced Randy to drink in moderation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tydamann (talk • contribs).

Stan's Asthma
Added:...which is bolstered by Cartman taking his inhaler as part of his settlment in the sexual harrasment case brought against Stan in #306-"Sexual Harrasment Panda". Watch the episode and it is quite clear. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShaneHaughey (talk • contribs).

religion
why are all these characters given with a religion? has stan ever claimed to be a christian?· Lygophile   has   spoken  12:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Does any kid ever claim to be a member of a religion? He has been brought up Catholic, attends Church, and knows many things about the bible. Until he says otherwise, we go with what has been shown. He prays to Jesus as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.57.213.1 (talk • contribs).
 * thats why inherently kids have no religion· Lygophile   has   spoken  00:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Excusez-moi? Children have no religion? Sacre-bleu! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wilhelmina Will (talk • contribs).

But he goes to Church, a Catholic one at that. So unless he is an idiot who just randomly attends religious ceremonies, he's a catholic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.57.213.1 (talk • contribs).

Who put that Stan was breifly converted to Christian?!? He's Catholic, and Catholic is Christian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachoismacho (talk • contribs) 01:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Stan vs Kyle
some assertions has been made to contrast stan and kyle. to do this properly this may need to be discussed. as to me it seems, Kyle is the one that is least influencible, will put up with nothing, and has so to say, the bigger mouth, but stan is the one with the more depth, the more adult perception, that sees things for what they are, he is the one coming up with the insightfull moral rhetoric. is this agreeable?· Lygophile   has   spoken  01:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yours is a subjective assessment totally inappropriate and undesirable for this page. Please leave interpretations of their roles to viewers, or at least cite secondary sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.15.244 (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Possible relation to Stanley Marsh 3?
Can anyone confirm/deny whether or not the creators named Stan Marsh after Stanley Marsh 3? It would be oddly coincidental if the creators chose both the first and last name randomly. To further back this up, Stanley Marsh 3's wife's name is Wendy, who shares the name of Stan Marsh's crush in the earlier seasons. 72.0.174.205 04:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Nah. Google Stanley Marsh and you get many hits for various people. Until we have solid data, leave it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.146.62.185 (talk) 19:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore, Wendy wasn't his crush. Their emotions are the real thing. Matt Stone said that in an interview. He said, when asked if they would ever be brought back together, that their love seems to be written in the stars, but it's as if the world conspires to keep them apart. If it was written in the stars, wouldn't that be the definition of soul mates? Wilhelmina Will 22:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Re-writing article
I've been meaning to do this for a long time, considering the multiple issues. Any help will be welcomed. Goldfishsoldier (talk) 00:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Meaning to do what, eviscerate the article? That's a huge chunk of data you've scrapped, with no justification. Captain Infinity (talk) 02:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's probably just trivia or fluff, which is unencyclopedic and shouldn't be in an encyclopedia, regardless of what the crazed fans say. Good work, Goldfishsoldier!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "Probably"? You operate on "probabay"?  This is clearly a kneejerk reaction from an editor I know likes to eliminate valid content and who considers users of the encyclopedia as "crazed".  Will, please familiarize yourself with WP:DIS and WP:TROLL; these articles are speaking to you. Captain Infinity (talk) 18:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Excactly, its far too in depth and inconsistant. We want a breif overlay of the character, not an in depth analysis don't we? Goldfishsoldier (talk) 05:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, we don't. Whatever gave you that idea? Captain Infinity (talk) 18:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Then what do we want? Goldfishsoldier (talk) 09:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheesy Poofs. --Captain Infinity (talk) 21:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I shall get some now. Goldfishsoldier (talk) 05:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Would You Stop Already!?
Look, I don't care what you think, Stan and Kyle are NOT in love. People have been putting in that "It's believed that there may be more than friendship between these children, but they're too young to realise it." If a kid says fuck, shit, or any other curse word, they're old enough to know if they're gay. Besides, Stan's already dating Wendy. Just stop putting it in again and again! The Matyr (converse with the Matyr) 21:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They are probably people who have read a lot of fanfics, but don't realise that they have nothing to do with the real, official South Park information. What must be done is to just remove it each time they try to put it in again, like you did (good stuff!), and I might take it upon myself to go to those addresses and account's talk pages and notifying them of why that sort of stuff is not to be added in. Thanks for your help!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Stan and Kyle are NOT gay. They are close friends, but that is it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.200.168 (talk) 13:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

is randy and sharon siblings?
yes it would be pretty sick and twisted, but in quintuplets sharon calls marvin DAD and in someting wallmart this way comes sheila say "hey  sharon isn´t that your  FATHER?" and says yes also randy calls him dad in a lot of episodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anton the Swede (talk • contribs) 13:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The earlier seasons are rife with these types of errors. Don't read too much into it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.232.161.153 (talk) 12:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

But he does have a point, because in quintuplets 2000, they both call him dad —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.157.11 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's probably b/c they're married, not that he's both their biological father68.43.207.114 (talk) 02:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

My mom calls my grandfather on my father's side dad. My dad does the same with my mother's father. When two people marry, it is extremely common for this to happen. Hell, I didn't know people didn't do it. That, coupled with the first anon's comments, should put this issue to rest. ShaneMarsh (talk) 22:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Stan and Kyle hugging
According to the article, Stan and Kyle first hug was in the "Smug Alert" episode. However, they hug earlier in the "Follow that egg" episode, just after Kyle told Stan he was sorry for not trusting him and not giving him the "real" egg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.243.188.181 (talk) 11:44, 12 September 2008 (UTC)