Talk:Stand by Me (film)

Plagiarism
almost this entire article is plagiarized. that being said this article should be completely credited to the source given in the OR discussion section, deleted, or reworked. until then the themes are gone, to begin with. Kas0809 (talk) 00:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation
True or false: This page can go on Stand by Me (film) and Stand by Me can be made into a dis-ambiguation page. Any objections?? 66.32.110.184 23:40, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

What other information do you want to include in the dab? RickK 23:41, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Whatever is possible. You know, a dis-ambiguation page has to have at least 2 choices, and there are 2 choices known, the film and the song. 66.245.107.192 00:12, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
 * We generally don't have articles about individual songs, unless they're somehow notable. RickK 02:04, 22 May 2004 (UTC)

Vern
Who exactly was Vern Tessio in the film stand by me?
 * He was the kid in the goofy shirt. You know, verrrrrrn!

Plot section
this section doesnt describe the plot at all. it describes the four main characters. you should be able to tell someone what the movie is about after reading the plot. this doesnt even come close.

True. As someone who has only read the book and not seen the film, i will try to add a small but decent plot summary to the article until someone else can elaborate on it. ArdClose 16:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

This plot section needs a major overhaul. I made a couple minor changes, but in the grand scheme, it reads like a bad high school book report. I may look into writing a new one, and post here for comments. Tool2Die4 (talk) 18:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I made an attempt to improve the plot section, but my 5/22 edit just got blanket reverted the next day by someone. Why bother? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.2.140 (talk) 12:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:FILMPLOT for an understanding of the guidelines for writing plot summaries. ---  RepublicanJacobite  TheFortyFive 14:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Nothing in my edit goes counter to those guidelines that I can see, so I'd appreciate more info on your rationale since it was a blanket revert. But I really shouldn't have to ask, should I?  I made simple edits that improved the flow and the accuracy, trying to address the "bad book report" criticism above, and not increasing word count at all.  And I'm still just left with Why Bother.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.2.140 (talk) 16:51, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * As I said in my edit summary, it seemed to be an unnecessary rewrite with the addition of unnecessary details. The fact that the changes were made with no edit summary only reinforced my belief that the edits were unhelpful and unnecessary.  After one has been here awhile, and seen as many pointless anonymous edits as I have, one becomes used to simply reverting on sight.  Having seen your messages here, I now understand that you were, and still are, attempting to be helpful.  So, my suggestion to you is to start a new discussion of the plot summary, stating what you think is missing, and how it could be better stated.  I will try to get other editors involved, as well, so that a better discussion can proceed. ---  RepublicanJacobite  TheFortyFive  17:39, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Castle Rock
Removed a bullet that stated the film was shot and filmed in Castle Rock, Oregon. It's set in Castle Rock, Maine Tellkel 23:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't set in Maine! its everywhere oregon oregon! God. it's repeated that its in Oregon. The film was shot in Brownsville, Oregon and other places in Oregon too, so its obvious, although Steven King's work was set in Maine, but the film is set in Oregon, as stated in one of the bullets. Ace Fighter 142.162.197.246

The train tressel scene is actually Lake Britton, California, just off highway 89.

Book = Maine. Movie = Oregon. Tool2Die4 (talk) 18:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Is it that the movie takes place in Oregon, or that it was shot in Oregon?


 * Movie takes place in Oregon. WikiKingOfMishawaka (talk) 17:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

"Castle Rock, Oregon" does not really exist. --192.65.41.20 (talk) 23:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, the current text indeed does read "set in the fictional Castle Rock, Oregon" (emphasis mine). Katr67 (talk) 00:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The first lines of the film are in voiceover: "I was 12 going on 13 the first time I saw a dead human being. It happened in the summer of 1959-a long time ago, but only if you measure in terms of years. I was living in a small town in Oregon called Castle Rock. There were only twelve hundred and eighty-one people. But to me, it was the whole world."--Alf melmac 16:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

"Don't be a Menace"
The scene in "Don't Be a Menace..." is a parody of a scene in Boyz N' The Hood --not this film. I removed that uneducated assumption from trivia.
 * In "Don't Be A Menace", going to the railroad tracks to see a dead body is in reference to "Stand By Me" RobertCMWV1974 21:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It's referencing the scene in Boyz in tha Hood where Chris takes them to see a dead body that's near the train tracks. Since Don't Be A Menace... relates to other "hood" movies it makes a hell of a lot more sense that it would parody BitH rather than Stand By Me.

--70.89.101.202 (talk) 19:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Differences between book and movie
This list is too long in my opinion. Overall, the film was pretty faithful to the story and this list is isn't particularly useful or informative. James 05:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Response: Being the one who put most of the list on the site in the first place, I admit that some of the stuff on it is pretty lame. It might be a good idea to separate the major ones from the minor ones- however, I'm not sure that would go with the neutral-point-of-view policy. If nothing can be decided, then I recommend just leaving it as it is 2Pac 16:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I've just looked at the list and agree with James. I can't see how it would violate NPOV to remove a bunch of it. Things like pointing out that they don't cross a field as a shortcut in the book, that one character said a line instead of another (when it's not crucial to the character's development), and the mayor's name in the Lardass scene are not helpful and are just taking up space. Frankly, the more you add to a list like this, the less NPOV it becomes, because you're bound to miss something. I'd make a list of the major ones, and remove everything else. JM2C. PacificBoy 17:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, there you go, it's only your opinion that certain entries on the list are "not helpful and taking up space". Besides, we've got all the space we want, this is an online encyclopedia. And in all honesty, as long as these entries are true, there's no point in debating which ones are good enough to be on the site and which ones aren't. Maybe there's someone out there who wants to find as many discrepancies as possible, for a school paper or something, you never know. So I recommend not removing anything from the list at all, and if you think some of it's crumby, you should just live with that. It's no big deal. 2Pac 19:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Dont forget that the article being interesting is also important, not just its accuracy.

i think the list was perfect, i have to do a report on it for school and it helped out a lot.

Moved around information
I moved the thing about a character called Milo Pressman in the show 24, from the Trivia section to the Parodies and Referances section. Ace Fighter 03:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Trivia
Could we add to the section, River Phoenix death in his 20's, just like his character 'Chris Chambers'? GoodDay 00:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Is "In the video games Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, Firered and Leafgreen, if the male character is selected at the start then Stand by Me will be playing downstairs on the television at the character's house." a relevant piece of trivia at all? I thought that the current policy was to shy away from mentioning every single pop-culture reference of a movie, book, etc. --JD79 01:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The Pokemon reference is largely baseless as-is, but it would be interesting if anybody could find a source for this. (Even so, it might be more appropriate as trivia on the pages of the respective games.) Without reference, this trivia is baseless; if you frob the TV, the game actually says something along the lines of a movie being shown in which young boys are walking along railroad tracks. Unless somebody can produce an interview with the localization team that establishes this movie to be "Stand By Me", the trivia is baseless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.201.233.73 (talk) 04:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Super late to the party, but the Pokémon reference has long been confirmed by Pokémon creator Satoshi Tajiri, who explicitly mentioned it in an interview published by Nintendo Online Magazine way back in 2000; it was in the July 2000 issue to be exact. CaptWilliamBlade (talk) 14:30, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Deletion
As this section has just been deleted, I think some of the points of Stand By Me in a song, cartoon series and music video could probably be reorganised into a Stand By Me in popular culture section. Anyone agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArdClose (talk • contribs) 19:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Some of the stuff in the trivia section was essentially useless info, although a few tidbits were somewhat relevant. I would be all for integrating them into the current structure somehow.  I will have to look at some other articles and Wiki guidelines and see how they handled it. Tool2Die4 (talk) 20:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Stand by me poster.jpg
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OR Themes?
I see the Themes section has recently been labelled OR for lack of sources. It should also be noted that the section corrisponds almost exactly to a review found at:

http://pr-gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32957&Itemid=9

One has been clearly copied word from word from the other. Can anyone actually find any sources for this section? ArdClose 20:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I slapped the tag on it; admittedly a bit of a tag-and-run but it smells too much like original work and I didn't have time to do any searching for the source. As to the link you give, you'll note that it was posted on that site on 10-21-07. I'm thinking it's a copy from here (with intermediate uncredited steps if you look at the sourcing there). AU Tiger  » talk 01:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Possible references
I found a couple of reviews that might be useful as references: And a couple of books on Google Books: Hope it helps. Somno (talk) 03:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * New York Times
 * Arizona Daily Star
 * Stephen King Encylopedia
 * The Philosophy of Interpretation
 * The Directors: Take Two
 * Childhood Studies

Leeches
The article makes mention at one point to "the infamous scene with the leeches" (or some such wording), but never actually explains that. Given that the scene with the leeches is apparently a particularly memorable scene &mdash; Wil Wheaton has commented in several places that people always ask him about that scene &mdash; it would make sense for an encyclopedia entry to have at least one sentence describing it, preferably with refs to show that it's widely recognized as memorable. In case you can't tell, I'm not in a position to describe the scene, as I own the movie but have yet to watch it. Someone else, please step up?Lawikitejana (talk) 05:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * the article describes the scene, Gordie faints after finding one in his underpants. this seems imprecise and kind of... silly? or prudish? it's like saying privates, or special area, or saying down there while whispering and maybe discretely pointing to your genitals. gorgie's reaction makes it fairly certain that the leech is not located on his thigh or whatever the area between your pubic bone and belly button is called. the leech is on either his penis or testicles, so shouldn't the article say Gordie faints after finding one on his genitals. &asymp;Sensorsweep (talk) 22:53, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually, one of the characters is the movie states that the leech was affixed to his testicles. If editors wish to avoid prudish circumlocutions, that could be stated explicitly. fishhead64 (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Link to legitimate website
Hi, I recently built a legitimate website for this movie. It is a fansite, but it is loaded with useful information plus it was built with the help of a few Brownsville residents. I will keep it up-to-date with forums, etc. In my hopes of making this the best site dedicated to the site, I think having a link to Wikipedia would greatly help out people who are trying to get in-depth information on the film. Here is the link: http://standbymemovie.webs.com/ Thanks 74.234.209.125 (talk) 00:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fansites should not be used as external links per wikipedia's external links policy (see WP:ELNO). ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 00:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand about regular fan-sites, but this site has quite a bit of info that wikipedia does not even mention. It is not a regular fan-site, it has legitimate information that a lot of people have no access to, or is extremely difficult to find. People from the town where it was filmed have contributed quite a bit also. It earned 4 stars on 80's movies rewind. If Wikipedia is supposed to help people understand a subject, then it should direct people to sites that are chock full of information and facts. 68.214.217.236 (talk) 16:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with this guy. I looked up this website, and there's a lot more information about the film than on here. Too, I believe he had some help from the people in the town where it was made? That's pretty legitimate if you ask me. 74.234.194.211 (talk) 16:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

reliable source
Wil Wheaton recently blogged about the production of the dead body, its prosthetics, and the actor who played it. That information, reliable as a primary source, is at http://wilwheaton.tumblr.com/post/18975606000/fuckkyeahwilwheaton-the-lead-actors-werent —   Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124;  20:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That seems like something that could reasonably be added to the production section, but please proceed with caution and note that "Monty Westmore" is credited in the Makeup Department for Stand by Me.
 * Michael Westmore his brother does not seem to have been credited on Stand by Me, and while it is possible he did uncredited work on the film, it is equally possible that Wheaton misremembered Mike rather than Monty because Michael Westmore is so famous for his extensive work on Star Trek. -- 109.79.72.115 (talk) 23:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Reception
In the reception section there is a line without any support: Stephen King was very impressed with the finished result,[6] and indicated, on the special features of the 25th anniversary Blu-ray set, that this was the first successful translation to film of any of his works.

According to whom was this the first successful translation to film? One can find critical support for two earlier adaptations; Carrie, and The Shining. Also the reference to Stephen King being impressed leads to a video of film maker Rob Reiner talking about Spinal Tap and makes no reference at all to Stand by Me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.119.67.158 (talk) 13:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * It doesn't say that it was the first successful one, just that King considers it the first one. He doesn't like the film adaptation of the Shining, for example -Athaler (talk) 15:21, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

River Phoenix
The plot section is for plot, and should not contain footnotes about what happened to the actors in real life. So while I agree with the editor who deleted a footnote about River Phoenix from the plot section, I also think it was added in good faith and that it should not be deleted and forgotten but that there should be some way to mention that information somewhere else in the article instead. (See above, back in August 2007 readers were also asking that the death of River Phoenix be mentioned in some way.)

Perhaps it could be mentioned in the Legacy section of the article? I expect that some reviewers who have reviewed the film after Phoenix died must have commented it. Knowing Phoenix died young adds a another layer of meaning and sadness to the story and changes it. -- 109.79.72.115 (talk) 23:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: American Cinema
— Assignment last updated by Isabella.mitrow (talk) 15:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Fatal stabbing
The first line of the plot section is, "In 1985, writer Gordon "Gordie" Lachance reads a newspaper article about a fatal stabbing." Would it be appropriate to point out that the victim was Gordie's best friend? Or maybe to say at the end of the plot section, when it talks about Chris's death, to tie it back to the newspaper? Aardvark92 (talk) 05:22, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * , in agreement. We should mention the stabbing victim was Gordie's childhood friend, Chris Chambers. This would explain better, the trigger for the plot. GoodDay (talk) 03:19, 24 November 2023 (UTC)