Talk:Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs

SCSC
Currently "SCSC" redirects here, but I have often seen it referring to the Superconducting Super Collider. I'm going to disambiguate this in a couple days, if you have objections please mention it on the talk page there. Joe (  Talk  ) 22:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No objections on my part anyways. I don't think it'll cause any problems.--Celtus (talk) 05:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, I've gone ahead and made the change. Thanks. Joe  (  Talk  ) 19:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

false claim in lead paragraph
The second sentence of the lead paragraph reads "The SCSC is the definitive and authoritative body for information on the Scottish Clan System.[1]" This is rubbish and will be removed. First, because the "source" it cites to support the claim is the website of the SCSC itself! And second, because the SCSC is in no way "the definitive and authoritative body for information on the Scottish Clan System [sic}". That's utter nonsense. For that to be true, authority would have to have been granted by some official body larger and/more powerful than itself. No such authority exists. Their "constitution" was supposedly enacted in 1952. Who authorized it? The British Crown? Parliament? The House of Lords? The Lord Lyon King of Arms? The not-yet-extant Scottish Parliament? Nope. A group of Scotsmen simply declared themselves to be so. The SCSC website claims that the SCSC was "founded...by the then Lord High Constable of Scotland, The Countess of Erroll..." They are referring to Diana Hay, 23rd Countess of Erroll but, although she was technically "Lord High Constable of Scotland" from 1941-64, that title had become almost entirely honorary in 1707, more than two centuries earlier. So the Countess of Erroll would have had no authority to set up any kind of legal authority over Scottish Clans nor, as nearly as I can tell, did she claim to have any such authority. The Lord Lyon King of Arms operates under the aegis of the British Crown. In order for the SCSC to have any legal authority, they would have to have been granted it by the Lord Lyon. No such authorization exists. So despite the image that the SCSC cultivates, they are not "the definitive and authoritative body" of anything. They are a private group that promotes Scottish clans, tourism, pride, etc., but they lack any legal authority .Bricology (talk) 08:21, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * More generally, [whatever] is the definitive and authoritative body for information on [whatever] is ridiculous: while an explanation can be authoritative, I have trouble seeing how a body can be; and "definitive body" is a puzzling notion indeed. -- Hoary (talk) 14:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Incidentally, I notice that this Website likes the Use of capital Letters for Nouns. Reading its Content, I sense that I am back in the eighteenth Century. I wonder if this might be the Intention. -- Hoary (talk) 22:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)