Talk:Stanisław Lem and robots

Requested move 6 January 2024

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Stanisław Lem and robots. Consensus on the alternative. – robertsky (talk) 01:51, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Robots of Stanisław Lem → Lem and robotics – Article does not appear to have been created by someone with English as their first language, "blank and blank" makes critical discussion of the subject easier by widening the scope and would bring it in line with the precedent laid down by things like the cornucopia of "Tolkien and blank" articles maintained by Chiswick. Orchastrattor (talk) 01:18, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support alternate move to Stanisław Lem and robots, he is not known on a last-name basis in quite the same way as, say, Tolkien. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How strongly do you feel about "robots" versus "robotics"? The former seems like it would be closer to the sources but the latter would be more useful as an actual topic. Orchastrattor (talk) 18:22, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that while he is well-known for his ideas about robots that "might be", it doesn't go into such detail on how they would realistically work that it would be considered "robotics", just conceptions of robots operated by as-yet-unknown principles. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:10, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alternative per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alternative proposition of ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ.Marcelus (talk) 10:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment
"Summa Technologiae (1964), a book-length essay contains Chapter 4: "Intellectronics", a term coined by Lem to speculate on the field that is known today as artificial intelligence, in lieu of the term "cybernetics" banned in the Soviet Bloc."

Cybernetics was banned up to 1954, it got banned during the rule of Stalin. In 1964 Stalin was long dead and Cybernetics was not banned in the Soviet Union. 147.235.197.177 (talk) 21:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It appears you are correct. In fact, since mid-1950s the Soviet/Russian term "Kibernetika" meant what is called computer science in English. 05:07, 25 March 2024 (UTC)