Talk:Star Trek: Starfleet Command III

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It looks as if there hasn't been a lot of major movement on this page for some time. Since no one else seems to be particularly interested, I'm going to go WP:BOLD on this and start really adding stuff to it. I've been a big fan of the ST game franchise for a long time, dating back to the tabletop version of Star Fleet Command (Star Fleet Battles) and still play both the original SFC and SFC III to this day, and have a goodly amount of Trek knowledge under my belt.

My overall plan with this, to keep anyone who wants to join in in the loop, is to get the text in first and then add references, pics and links as I go along and as time permits. Some notes regarding comments below:


 * Legal distribution: If the game is for sale anywhere, including places like Amazon.com and the like, it's not legally distributable for "free". Generally, PC games do not become "abandonware" for 15 to 20 'years'. Some software companies never let their licenses lapse too, like LucasArts, for example. Links to downloadable versions should be kept out of the article.


 * Genre: SFC III, like it's predecessors, is considered a "RTS Space Combat Simulator" game. Although, when the original SFC came out back in the day, an interview with one of the developers stated that the game speed could be decreased to such an extent that it would act more like a "turn based" strategy game as well.

If anyone wants to pitch in and help, great. You can always contact me on my talk page to collaborate if you wish. Please remember to "sign" your additions to this talk page with the 4 "~" too, it'll be a big help. Aces&amp;Eights (talk) 13:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Is it me or does this article not state what type of game it is about? what is this? FPS?? RPG....172.209.180.106 23:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Umm, I'm not sure how this game can be legally distributed just because it's no longer supported. It's probably still under copyright and therefore any links to download locations should be removed.

Was this game really "produced in only limited quantities"? I saw plenty of them in stores. There is one guy on eBay who likes to try and sell it for $125/copy all the time, but no one actually buys them at that price. I bet he added that statement.


 * I don't have a source to point to, but I very much believe that it WAS produced in limited quantities, because of all the Trek games from the same general era (late 90s and early 00s) this one and Elite Force 2 are by far the hardest to find. I still occasionally run across all three of this game's predecessors in video game store bargain bins, but I haven't seen SFC3 in stores since not long after it was released.  Also, searching online generally reveals that a new copy of this game can't be bought anywhere, and used copies sell for $80 or more at every site I've managed to locate them. Toroca 18:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)≥
 * That's because, when Activision sued Paramount/Viacom, all unsold copies of their Trek games (SFCIII, Armada II, Bridge Commander, and Elite Force II) were taken off shelves and destroyed. That's why you have to pay ~$80 or so for a copy off of Amazon. Carguy1701 (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

'References' removed
I removed the references section because, and you can quote me on this, the referenced article was a piece of shit. The article was riddled with spelling and grammar errors, and utterly failed to reference any of its own claims. Worse, it was hardly about the subject matter at all. Upon re-reading, it's quite possible that the article was written by a retarded orangutan, or maybe a cappucine monkey that a retarded orangutan might call stupid in polite company. As far as encyclopedic integrity is concerned, one might as well link to crayon scribblings on a wall.

The article previously referenced can be seen at http://www.startrek-gamers.com/history12.htm

'External Links' also removed
Wow. Just wow... Of all the possible gaming sites that could be referenced, the Wikipedia links to http://www.startrek-gamers.com/sfc3.htm for a review. It's quite clear that the author of this review lacks even a basic understanding of english. Not only should their article be shunned, but the author should be tarred, feathered and beaten with a stick. The author(s) can't even tell the difference between were and we're.  Jesus jumping christ on a pogo stick, that article sucks. That's all.

Plot description
I think the plot description needs to be rewritten since it's almost certainly a cut and paste job with minor alterations. Also, having Picard's narration underneath which says the same thing exactly underscores this. What happens? Why aren't the Romulans happy? What do they do? What role do the Borg play since they're part of the game despite the story seeming like an Alpha/Beta Quadrant affair? Give a brief synopsis of the storyline without giving away major story elements (ie, so and so is betrayed by someone, or so and so is infact, Tyler Durden, etc) (Bobbo9000 00:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Bobbo9000)

Copyright Problems
As suggested above, a quick google search found the plot description here and here. Most likely lifted from the primary source, I'm guessing. J293339 (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Would anyone be angry...
Would anyone be upset if I completely rewrote this article? I've owned this game for quite a while, have beaten the Federation and Klingon campaigns, and have quite a knowledge of the Star Trek universe. I'll start doing some minor editing right now and will check back for replies later. Mbacon (talk) 01:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

So what actually IS it?
This doesn't seem to describe the game at all, as much as a series of complaints that the author has about it. Can someone maybe include some actual information about, say, the gameplay? 87.194.228.87 (talk) 20:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I've done that... Carguy1701 (talk) 07:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Changes I made
Since the article was pretty barren, I added pretty much everything I know about the game. I tried to be as thorough as possible, but if I missed anything, please let me know. Carguy1701 (talk) 17:57, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

regarding the lawsuit
it seems that someone could have gotten the details wrong. it is more likely that paramount sued activision than the other way around.2A02:FE0:C100:1:1531:B302:E6D7:BB73 (talk) 20:38, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * They did, AFTER Activision sued them. Carguy1701 (talk) 06:27, 25 July 2014 (UTC)