Talk:Star Wars Galaxies/Archive 4

Proper citation
If you're going to cite sources, cite them properly using the cite web and cite journal templates. Jonawiki has created a lot of work for everyone with all of these improperly cited source's they've introduced in the last couple of days here. Beyond that, make sure your source is a reliable one as defined by WP:RS. We have a lot of cleanup work to do now. Roguegeek (talk) 23:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I will start trying to change the sources to the proper format, it will be slow going but it will get done.BaronJuJu 22:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
Whatever other issues exist here, a large portion of this article needs cleanup and copyediting as it is not well written.--Isotope23 20:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, I recommend removing the rumor and conspiracy theory sections first. No real relevance to the current game.BaronJuJu 20:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Many citations use the format, and not the format. Since the first citations use the more descriptive format, I think they all should. -Wizzard2k 21:28, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

History
I have started rewriting the history section of the article that existed before this mess of current edits. I've added as much detail as I though was necessary and made sure to give proper sources cited correctly for every bit I could find. Stopped at the release of AED because the other section appears to pick up from there. Was looking for feedback on what I've added. Thoughts? Roguegeek (talk) 22:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks good, a nice addition to the page. I wasn't familiar will all of that info you posted. Well done.BaronJuJu 23:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I added some history of the old holocron system to the Jedi "controversy" section. Seemed appropriate as the section jumped from accusations of the Jedi system not being in place to the unlocking of the first Force-sensitive character slot.  Also, the holocron system itself generated quite its share of controversy.192.88.212.43 14:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)Ittov, Shadowfire (July '03 - May '05)


 * And it was promptly deleted with no explanation, returning the section to a cut-and-paste from the SWGalaxies.net "History of Galaxies" page (http://www.swgalaxies.net/about/index.htm). I guess one person's version of the history of the game is what we're going to get on this entry, even though it's poorly written and misses a large amount of info on what made the introduction of the Jedi system controversial.  Disgusting for a Wikipedia entry.  No community, just one person reigning over an entry. 65.33.126.4 11:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * That's an absolutely false accusation. A lot of editors (including myself) have originally contributed to this article for years now to make it what it is today. It's quite obvious the site you listed above is using this article to create their own history page of the game. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that since all info on Wikipedia is for free use. I would suggest going back through the history to see how organically the article has grown before stating some very obviously incorrect statements. The history very blatantly shows how incorrect that assumption is. It's simply insulting to all of the editors who've put time into this article. Roguegeek (talk) 05:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * So then why would a "contributor" remove factual information about the history of the game, chalking it up to "way too much detail on pre-NGE Jedi unlocking"? The subheading was Jedi and controversy.  That detail was exactly what made Jedi controversial up until Publish 9/10.  I've looked through the history of edits here, and all I see is a few individuals that seem to think the less information presented, the better.  Says a lot about the current state of the game and its community. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.88.212.43 (talk • contribs).

Getting it right
I realize that no MMO has pissed off so many people, but people are letting their sheer hatred outweigh accurate information. I properly added and cited the most current batch of subscriber numbers - I certainly hope that they do not get deleted, and I hope that this page will have more integrity going forward. 206.222.52.18 15:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I modified the number to reflect 175K as stated in the MMOGchart SWG section. I also added the accuracy reference to show that these numbers are essentially "best guesses". While I don't agree that the subscriber number ssection should even be in this page, I agree it should be as accurate as possible. BaronJuJu 15:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * FWIW I believe the reason the numbers are so inaccurate now are due in part to the fact SWG was added to SOE's Station Access Pass, so many players who might have had multiple SOE accounts rolled them into one. -Wizzard2k 21:38, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Opinionated Statements
"And they should have gone for naught, because player Jedi had no business being in a game that was set during a period in the canon where there were no Jedi.[38]"

This statement is opinionated and is not fact. i suggest we remove it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.188.247.33 (talk • contribs).

It is a fact there were few jedi... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.89.50.200 (talk • contribs).


 * It is fact that there were few known Jedi in the Jedi Order left. Also take into consideration the Grey Jedi existing the whole time. The only Jedi executed in Order 66 were the Jedi Council. NastalgicCam 18:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Who the F added that statement? Whoever added it was obviously a troll. I agree that we either need to edit it, or remove it entirely. There were plenty of Jedi around at the time, sure not in the hundreds, but there were A LOT more than just yoda, and obi-wan. --KCMODevin 12:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

spam need to be removed
metacritic has put several wrong links in this article and reference to have some pubs and increase its google rank. If someone could clean this article it will be great. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.108.167.221 (talk • contribs).


 * Care to point out examples? Roguegeek (talk) 11:35, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

metacritic is a gameshop and has retrieve only the game notes on their descriptions. References : 27 - http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/starwarsgalaxies 28 - http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/starwarsgalaxiesjumptolightspeed/ 29 - http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/starwarsgalaxiesepisode3rageofthewookies 30 - http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/starwarsgalaxiestrialsofobiwan Other website have done same in the reference part. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.108.167.221 (talk • contribs).

Added 'in Japan'
The little info box about the game makes it appear as though the entire game was discontinued in November 2005, while in reality it was only Japan. I have updated this, in addition I will be doing some work on this article, as I've been playing the game for a loong time, and this is not well written.

~DarkDwarf