Talk:Stardust (1927 song)

Suggestion to update the charts section
I note that there are only 3 mentions of this song being in the charts, whereas there are several references in this article to other times this song was in the charts, and this chart should then be updated. It mentions only the following being in the charts:

1943 - Glenn Miller - US Billboard Hot 100 - position: 20 1957 - Billy Ward and his Dominoes - US Billboard Hot 100 - position: 12 1964 - Nino Tempo & April Stevens - US Billboard Hot 100 - position: 32

There are several other mentions in this article to other artists achieving popularity in the charts with this song. (Where the position in the charts in this page is not mentioned, the artist's discographies provide specific information on where the song or album charted):

1940 - Frank Sinatra - Hot 100 - 7; 1953 - Artie Shaw - Ten Pop Standard Records List - 1; 1953 - Tommy Dorsey - Ten Pop Standard Records List - 7; 1953 - Glenn Miller - Ten Pop Standard Records - 8; 1958 - Pat Boone's album "Stardust" charted (but not the song) - Billboard’s Best Selling LP - 2; 1962 - Frank Sinatra - Adult Contemporary - 20; 1978 - Willie Nelson - Billboard’s Top Country Albums + Billboard’s Top LPs & Tapes - both at No. 1; 2004 - Rod Stewart's album "Stardust: The Great American Songbook Vol III" charted (but not the song) - Canada + US Billboard 200 - both at No. 1

I would suggest that both Pat Boone's album and Rod Stewart's album should be omitted or any suggestion that their version of the song Stardust having charted, should be clarified as neither's version of this specific song actually charted.

I'm not sure how this section should be updated nor how to note the references or find the missing references to the charts.

Tzali (talk) 10:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Originally, I did not include the chart information for Tommy Dorsey, Artie Shaw nor Glenn Miller since I couldn't find any reliable sources that would point to the specific position. With the information you provided, I was at least able to find some publications detailing it (Google Books keeps the Billboard archive, but there are no issues of 1940 or 1941 on it).
 * The list of charts includes only instances in which the song itself charted, and not albums named after it. For the same reason, only notable versions of the song are mentioned in the article (the standard for their inclusion would be that they either charted, or that there's a relevant story to their recording, or that we at least are able to add a review of it). The guidelines for articles about songs or albums are specific about avoiding "trivia" such as "X artist included it on their album X", etc.-- GDuwen  Holler!  20:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra's versions
I don't know where the story in this article comes from, but Nat King Cole's 1957 version clearly includes the entire song. Perhaps he mentioned that it wore him out, perhaps he didn't want to do it, but somehow he ended up singing the whole thing.

Also, it might be worth mentioning that Frank Sinatra's first version with Tommy Dorsey only had the second section, while his later 1962 version only had the beginning section. I wonder if that was a little joke on his part, to have 2 incomplete versions recorded.

I think the structure of the song is quite unique, doesn't really follow any standard format. It's two distinct sections, two consecutive rounds of each. I don't think it's really clear which is the "chorus" or the "verse". The first section is almost more like an introduction--except it lasts for half the song! It's perhaps comparable in that sense to some Lennon/McCartney compositions, with discrete sections that progress sequentially through the song but don't repeat or alternate, like "Happiness is a Warm Gun" or "Band on the Run" (although far superior to either of those!).104.162.73.218 (talk) 06:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)