Talk:Starfire (Teen Titans)

DC Universe Online
I just looked at the article for that game, and Starfire has not been confirmed for it (yet). Anyone else think this is worth mentioning? 71.67.106.129 (talk) 21:42, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Starfire loves Dick

 * Pardon me, but you're completely wrong. Starfire was lover for several years to Dick Grayson, as Robin and as Nightwing. They were even engaged to marry, but the ceremony was interrupted by evil Raven. As far as I know, and unless it happened in the new Titans issues I haven't read yet, Starfire has never been lover to Tim Drake, not to mention she's several years older than him. For more information see Titans Tower: Starfire and Titans Tower: Nightwing-- Andromeda 09:52, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I've checked more into it since then and now realize my mistake, I've retracted my statement. Thanks for the info. –embarrassed Batman Fan.

Umm.. Starfire was married to another man before Dick. One she actually married, so I think it's fair to say that Starfire has been with more than just Dick. She never actually married Dick, thankfully. Their relationship has had many, many, many interuptions. She also had a brief romance with a member of HIVE who was killed before she got with Dick. She's never been with Tim Drake, that's for sure, but she's been with more than just Dick. CureWhite

Her being more with than just Dick was never in question. Just her not being with Tim. Though, I gotta ask, you don't like Gray-Fire? I thought they made a darling couple. I hope they recindle when she gets back. The Anti-Gnome 06:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I hope that never happens Nomsese (talk) 22:35, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Starfireisms

 * Anyone else think the section of Starfire 'isms' is pretty unencyclopedic? --InShaneee 16:24, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Not really. They're rather a defining characteristic of the character. Haikupoet 02:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I know they help establish the 'alien-ness' of the character, but do we really need ALL of 'em? Personally, I think we should just stick in two or three, to get the point across (especially since most of them have no definition, or extremely speculative ones). --InShaneee 03:06, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I visited this page just to get familar with the character and they're very out of place. It doesn't give a better definition of the character (a simple line explaining uses alien phrases would work just as well) and really looks ameteurish when compared to other comic book entries. Ultimately, it just needs to be removed as it's something better suited to a fansite.
 * Alright, I'm gonna try a rewrite as a comprimise, so there's less trivial/unverified info. Let's see what people think of this. --InShaneee 04:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Status
Didn't starfire die in infinite crissis number six? I thought she did, why isn't it mentioned on the article? - 68.89.222.215 20:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No. She is MIA at the moment, but no death has been confirmed. Ace Class Shadow 01:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Character confusion
I've glanced at this entry several times and though passages that were next to the Koriand'r SHB were about her. Can we please switch the characters, with the more wll-known version on top? --Chris Griswold 02:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Minor Edit
Original sentence : As with the other characters in Teen Titans, it was decided to render a younger, more child-like version of Starfire for the animated series version.

Edited : As with the other characters in Teen Titans, it was decided to render a younger, more teenager-like version of Starfire for the animated series version.

Kinda minor, but I felt it needed to be done since it was Teen Titans and they weren't children but teenagers. --Takuyar 02:14, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

POV
'Starfire's top and skirt in the animated series seem more appropriate than her comic-book incarnation's risque outfit.' In what way is this NPOV? It sounds very judgmental of her costume and also uses weasel words.Jupiterzguy
 * I agree, and some of this article reads a lot like crufty fan service. --Basique 18:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Article structure
OK, I've returned the article to its previous status quo to emphasize Koriand'r's position as the most notable Starfire; given how the Red Star section links almost immediately straight to his own article, and the second Starfire seems to be essentially non-notable, there's no good reason to "restructure" the article to move the information that people would actually be looking for down the page. Anyone have any thoughts? Rdfox 76 02:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Another Starfire
There was a villainess, "Starfire" in the Supergirl issues of Adventure Comics (CBDB.com says #404-407). She was being set-up to be Supergirl's archnemesis, when Adventure was cancelled. Should she be included here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.188.30 (talk) 18:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

No she should not Nomsese (talk) 21:39, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

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Rename this article?
Currently we have a "Starfire (comics)" article and a "Starfire (DC Comics)" article, the latter of which concerns the Sornaii swordswoman character. To my mind, this does not suitably disambiguate the characters. They both were published by DC Comics, so it seems to me that a different disambiguating text should be chosen. What about renaming this article to "Starfire (Teen Titans)" or "Starfire (Koriand'r)" or "Starfire (DC Comics superheroine)" or some such? The other article could be renamed "Starfire (Sornaii champion)" or "Starfire (DC Comics swordswoman)". Any thoughts?

--GentlemanGhost (talk) 23:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with this person. This would make much more sense, considering that both characters are owned by DC.  As it is now, it would be confusing to someone looking for one or the other.


 * I think the page as it exists now is effectively a conflation of two separate pages, and should be split into two. We need a "Starfire (disambiguation)" page briefly listing all the charaters who have used that name, and then a "Starfire (Koriand'r)" page, focused on that best-known character.  That, at least, is what I would do. Iohannkn (talk) 01:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Even better, list them by their fictional homeworlds. ie. Starfire (Tamaran) and Starfile (Pytharia). Considering how obscure the swordswoman is (only a handful of mentions since the character faded from view over 30 years ago), this seems more than reasonable. As well, we might want to DB Red Star (comics) as well, since the character was riginally called Starfire as well. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 16:10, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 5 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved. This includes the suggestions below to include and rename the other DC comics character. (closed by a page mover) What's in your palette?  Paine   03:35, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Starfire (comics) → Starfire (Koriand'r) – Since there are more than one character using the name Starfire in DC Comics publication NeoBatfreak (talk) 08:53, 5 June 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. &mdash; Music1201  talk  01:25, 12 June 2016 (UTC)  --Relisting.  Omni Flames  ( talk ) 07:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * No opinion, but note that the page Starfire (DC Comics) should also be involved in this.  ONR  (talk) 01:49, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * So I guess that everyone is okay with the renaming?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 02:26, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. If this is the "most prominent" DC character with this name (as stated in the lead, but also backed up by page views) then I'm not sure if this is the best idea, but either way I agree with ONR above that this discussion should include the other character at Starfire (DC Comics). PC78 (talk) 15:44, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree the current names aren't sufficiently DABed, but one of these characters is far more popular than the other. I think this page is fine with the (comics) tag. The other should be renamed, perhaps to Starfire (Star Hunter). If anyone looking for the older character ends up at the wrong page, the hat note is enough to get them where they need to go. Argento Surfer (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


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Spare memories and other non-consequential info
I keep removing info which has little and less to do with Starfire and more with her team's adventures. The article is not an exhaustive discussion of every little jaunt she has made; it is an concise description of matters. Brevity is key. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:52, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Make an example for everyone to understand Nomsese (talk) 22:38, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 17 August 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved  Dr Strauss   talk   18:59, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Starfire (Koriand'r) → Starfire (Teen Titans) – I do not believe there are any other articles regarding fictional characters that use the subject's alternative name or secret identity as a disambiguator. However, when there is more than one fictional character with the same name created by a comics company, I have seen disambiguators used which refer to the team or comic book which the subject is most associated; for this subject, the most associated subject would most likely be Teen Titans. Steel1943 (talk) 06:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Support consistant with Starfire (Star Hunters), the article this is DABed from. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:49, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per the nominator's explanation. ╠╣uw [ talk ]  19:28, 17 August 2017 (UTC)


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Page Title
I feel that the recent change to Starfire's article is a bit one-dimensional. Starfire has been on at least three other teams aside from the Teen Titans, she's not only identified with them. It's like titling Beast Boy's page "Beast Boy (Doom Patrol)". It really only embodies one portion of that character's history. Why can't you guys just title it "Starfire (DC Comics)" like you do with nearly every DC character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UltimateTitan6 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Because the other Starfire is also from DC Comics. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:44, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Dead links
I just axed three links from the External Link list, because they were all to a website that apparently reorganized, so these links just ended up on the front page. If someone with more time at the moment wants to go through this site and find the appropriate Starfire pages, that might not be a bad idea. --Nat Gertler (talk) 17:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Predicting the past?
The section on Teen Titans Go! states, "Starfire does not reciprocate Robin's romantic feelings towards her. Rather, she sees him as a brother figure or friend; however, in 'Mouth Hole' and 'The Return of Slade' it is predicted that they kissed." There is something wrong with the latter sentence, but not having seen the show, I don't know exactly what. Predicting a past event doesn't make sense. Maybe that should say, "it is implied that they kissed" or "it is suggested that they kissed" or "it is predicted that they will kiss in the future" or "they become time travelers, and somebody predicts that they will go into the past and kiss then". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect categorizations
I removed the links at the bottom of the page categorizing Starfire under: "DC Comics LGBT superheroes" "Fictional pansexuals" "Fictional polyamorous people". I searched on these. There is no official statement on Starfire being pansexual from DC Comics either by anyone who worked on her or in any comic book issues. She is not categorized as LGBT on the DC Wiki. The only thing out there that touches on the subject is a speculation piece on the SYFY website. Before these categories get re-inserted, I think it is only fair that it be mentioned in the body of the page with citing from a credible source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrm0220 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you are going to remove those, you need consensus to do, and I oppose your removal 100%.Historyday01 (talk) 14:56, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Historyday01, what are the sources supporting the categorization? Dimadick (talk) 16:13, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Once again (of many) I just removed Starfire's incorrect characterization as pansexual and polyamorous. The part of the speculative text mentioning this is still there, as I couldn't think of a way to rewrite it. She has never been shown to be pansexual or polyamorous in the DC Universe in any official source, even though this may be common in her culture. Likewise, lesbianism is common among DC Amazons, but many of them are not lesbians. --2804:2FB0:41E:AF00:C859:11BD:25BC:4468 (talk) 19:37, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * They keep insisting on putting the labels "LGBT", "pansexual" and "polyamorous" here, and I'm constantly reversing it, and telling them to read this Talk page. --2804:2FB0:476:4500:156E:4AB:151A:E6F6 (talk) 19:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Image
Can we get a new photo for Starfire? Countryking2001 (talk) 01:52, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Pansexual/LGBT?
Starfire is not pansexual/LGBT. This is a fan headcanon, it's not canonical. Why do you keep insisting on it? --168.228.86.160 (talk) 22:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move December 8, 2021
Starfire (Teen Titans) → Starfire (Koriand'r)  Marveldccomicsfan (talk) 23:36, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Page Name
Why is the name of this page "Starfire (Teen Titans)", It makes it seem like she exclusively a Teen titans charecter would not be more appropriate to say Starfire (Dc Comics) or Starfire (Koriand'r) WrenSparks (talk) 20:22, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Main Image
Can she please get a new main image Cordelia Van Allen (talk) 23:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)