Talk:State nationalism

This entry is strange and lacks reliable sources. It verges on original research, and the term seems to be more of popular use than really used by historians. Nationalism, would argue several historians, is a creation of the state; hence "state nationalism" is a bit oxymoric. That nationalism was then, sometimes, reversed against the state and used to fight it is another problem, but historically "state nationalism" precedes ethnic nationalism. Hence the strange use of this term, and of this stub. Tazmaniacs 15:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The terms "staatsnation" and "kulturnation" were coined by Friedrich Meinecke(Meinecke, F. (1908) Weltbürgertum und Nationalstaat. München /Berlin: R Oldenburg). Staatsnation ("state-nation" in English) is e.g. the USA or France, where membership is defined by state citizenship, not by ethnicity. "Statsnationalism" is used with this meaning in Swedish and AFAIU "staatsnationalismus" ("state-nationalism") in German. There might be a "legitimate" use of the word in English, too. However, the article describes something completely different than "staatsnationalismus", something that I don't know the name for (if indeed there is a name).Sjö 09:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Redirect to civic nationalism?Sjö 16:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)