Talk:States Newsroom

proposed deletion
I would submit that this article should not be deleted for lack of notability. The main notability guideline says, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." And this has multiple sources cited that are independent of the subject.

I came here because I saw an article from the Ohio Capital Journal and I wanted to know what that was. It redirected me to States Newsroom. I can see a legitimate argument that each of these state news organizations doesn't deserve its own article, but not having one article for all of them? They've gotten significant coverage and I'm sure I'm not the only person who wondered what the Ohio Capital Journal, the Minnesota Reformer, etc., are. Pha telegrapher (talk) 18:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Reliability and UBO
I'm trying to decide whether this source is generally reliable or due, given its unusual viewpoint and funding model. I will collect info here while thinking about this as I came across it.

UBO for Minnesota Reformer:
 * Business Insider: on local protests, on local Boogaloo events,
 * AP News: on George Floyd mural defacement, on political malarkey
 * MinnPost: MinnPost notes two big stories broken by MR and mentions that one MR reporter has been on a consistent local beat... generally quite a few local stories sourced to MR
 * Politico: on local marijuana policy
 * Vice: heavy reliance for a local homelessness story

Looks like MR is quite solid. Usually it is attributed and linked. Jlevi (talk) 22:35, 4 November 2020 (UTC)


 * What is UBO? Marquardtika (talk) 22:57, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * UBO. The general idea is that if reliable sources reference a source, it provides a (minor, loose) indicator about the weight and reliability of that referenced source. So, AP News will probably never reference Mike's Fake News Emporium, but it will probably reference the NYT or Fox News where necessary. That gives a minor positive indicator of the reliability of those two sources.
 * Now, much better indicators of reliability include 1) reliable sources explicitly discussing the source in questions, or 2) indications of a transparent, rigorous editorial process at the source. Anything else I could help out with? Jlevi (talk) 23:40, 4 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Ah, got it. Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense. Re. Minnesota Reformer, IIRC they broke some stories about Jim Hagedorn in the last few months. I remember seeing discussion of the stories they broke (with credit to Minnesota Reformer) in other media outlets, like MinnPost and the Star Tribune. Marquardtika (talk) 01:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)